I think Stoke are well capable of the double dip, there is very little quality in there squad and what they have will be moving on. A massive rebuild is needed and if they don't get the right players for a tough championship then the double dip is on, could be worth a small bet. No doubt Sunderland thought they were odds on to return to premiership first time around. Whereas Crewe for the first time in years have got a settled squad, no exodus of experienced players like last season so everything is looking positive.