Originally Posted by
The_Moog
Some fair points.
It is perfectly realistic in my view to set a target of Europe and a cup win every season. At the start of every season we would all say that’s a realistic target for that season surely?
What is also realistic is the fact we won’t achieve that every year, but when we don’t achieve it, the reasons need scrutinised and analysed - and people at the club challenged and held to account for the failure with required improvements identified and implemented. That scrutiny is what a lot of people are doing here, and frankly it’s something I simply don’t believe will happen within the Club.
I don’t think for a second Milne will be challenging DM over the teams performance this year - he’ll be quite happy - and that sets a bar that allows us to continue to win very little.
Lennon has now gone a bit OTT in his reaction to last night and did actually throw his team under a bus today which I think was unfair, but by Christ the man has the type of standards I’d love our management to aspire to.
You think a reasonable expectation is Europe and two decent cup runs - I assume that means semi final minimum?
My reasonable expectation is higher and I think realistic at the start of each season. I really do think that setting a lower expectation level makes it easier (and more likely) for us to end up winning nothing - as we have done many times as you point out.
If we don’t achieve it, then as I said, DM and the team need held to account, (not thrown under a bus) problems & causes of the failure identified and improvements implemented for the next season. I don’t believe that happens anywhere near to the level it should - just my opinion.
DM isn’t getting sacked - he’s got enough credit in the bank to get another season at least - more fae Milne probably. I agree with Stupie that next season is a big one for Del and make or break for him with a lot of supporters - me included.
He needs to be properly challenged to deliver more. We are back to being a top of the table team with respectability, which is great after years of embarrassment - but again, given the relative weakness of Sevco, the diets and HIV’s this last 5 years I can’t help feeling that 1 trophy from that period is a poor return. Looking at a lot of the teams who have won trophies in that period it’s realistic to have expected more and be disappointed with the haul in that period.
The one guy I’d love to se the back of ASAP is Milne but sadly that’s nae gonna happen either so mediocrity will almost certainly persist for the foreseeable sadly.