So if rafa loves the toon so much

[pboromag]

When des he walk away from the negotiations with ash

last season he said he wanted players in early
i would think he does this close season

so when does he stop arguing with and taking ashlys money if things dont happen quickly
can we go into another season uncertain of rafa staying
his public arguments with ash
and the instability that brings

when does he say to ash you know what im sick of arguing and begging get someone else in
im off, for the benefit of the team and the club get someone else in ,in time for pre season
pss pay me my contract up

[ghostrider]

It'll be interesting to see what really transpires from all this.
A few days after the end of the season should give us all much more clarity on what's what.

[ex_pat_magpie]

When des he walk away from the negotiations with ash

last season he said he wanted players in early
i would think he does this close season

so when does he stop arguing with and taking ashlys money if things dont happen quickly
can we go into another season uncertain of rafa staying
his public arguments with ash
and the instability that brings

when does he say to ash you know what im sick of arguing and begging get someone else in
im off, for the benefit of the team and the club get someone else in ,in time for pre season
pss pay me my contract up

[tinostongue]

when des he walk away from the negotiations with ash

last season he said he wanted players in early
i would think he does this close season

so when does he stop arguing with and taking ashlys money if things dont happen quickly
can we go into another season uncertain of rafa staying
his public arguments with ash
and the instability that brings

when does he say to ash you know what im sick of arguing and begging get someone else in
im off, for the benefit of the team and the club get someone else in ,in time for pre season
pss pay me my contract up

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[Zippity]

You know what, this is actually a relevant and fair question. (Having said that, given your love of winding folk up by slating Rafa, P'boro, you can see why the last two posters are responding as they have-reap what you sow and all that)

But, back to the question (ignoring the title of the thread as that's the bit designed to wind people up), I think we'll see something happen very early next week if he can't get the assurances about what he wants to be able to spend. There will come a point where his frustrations will make him walk away-he knows what it will take to get us to progress, he knows the potential of the Club and he knows how he can achieve this so why should he settle for less? He's earned the right to ask for certain assurances and we all know if he doesn't get them we'll face another season of struggle and I think it's clear from what he's said that he's not prepared to do that again.

So , as for the tipping point you're asking about, I think it's about to happen. He'll want to go somewhere where they trust his judgement and experience and let him do the best job he can by backing him properly (I don't think he'll be asking the earth in terms of money for players) and he'll want a full pre-season to work with his squad whether that's our squad or another. Plus, it must be hugely unsettling for him-as it would be for any of us making big decisions about our future-not to know where he'll be in the next couple of months never mind years so that will be a factor too.

Important days ahead for us-and Ashley holds the key.

[HughieG]

Rafa has always made it clear that he would finish this season and from then on make sure he gets what he needs in terms of money for transfers for next season, and if not he'll likely walk. This has never been a secret. So to answer the OP-question; he will leave if he realizes he cannot get what he wants - and early.

[pboromag]

You know what, this is actually a relevant and fair question. (Having said that, given your love of winding folk up by slating Rafa, P'boro, you can see why the last two posters are responding as they have-reap what you sow and all that)

But, back to the question (ignoring the title of the thread as that's the bit designed to wind people up), I think we'll see something happen very early next week if he can't get the assurances about what he wants to be able to spend. There will come a point where his frustrations will make him walk away-he knows what it will take to get us to progress, he knows the potential of the Club and he knows how he can achieve this so why should he settle for less? He's earned the right to ask for certain assurances and we all know if he doesn't get them we'll face another season of struggle and I think it's clear from what he's said that he's not prepared to do that again.

So , as for the tipping point you're asking about, I think it's about to happen. He'll want to go somewhere where they trust his judgement and experience and let him do the best job he can by backing him properly (I don't think he'll be asking the earth in terms of money for players) and he'll want a full pre-season to work with his squad whether that's our squad or another. Plus, it must be hugely unsettling for him-as it would be for any of us making big decisions about our future-not to know where he'll be in the next couple of months never mind years so that will be a factor too.

Important days ahead for us-and Ashley holds the key.

i honestly feel he cant hold a gun to ashlys head again like he tried last season
it didnt work for either party

i would give him two weeks to either be happy with what might happen and he realises he will get a little money and like lastt season make the rest up from internal sales

if not move on
admit he wont win against ash and let someone else come in

or just shut up and get on with it

[AP69]

i honestly feel he cant hold a gun to ashlys head again like he tried last season
it didnt work for either party

i would give him two weeks to either be happy with what might happen and he realises he will get a little money and like lastt season make the rest up from internal sales

if not move on
admit he wont win against ash and let someone else come in

or just shut up and get on with it

So you're admitting Ashley won't back him with the money the club has generated as promised but still try and make Rafa out to be the problem

[TheOtherTerryMac]

I would say Rafa will be off in the next month

Fatty won’t even speak to him he’ll use his glove puppet Charnley to do his dirty work

So let’s bring on the next bargain basement manager to work within the crippling constraints imposed on him.

[Jammy89]

I would say Rafa will be off in the next month

Fatty won’t even speak to him he’ll use his glove puppet Charnley to do his dirty work

So let’s bring on the next bargain basement manager to work within the crippling constraints imposed on him.

Then the inevitable flood of our better players leaving.

I think we'll know where we are at end of May.

Transfer window finishes early next season so won't be able to arse about last minute in sept.