How low would you go?

[jimmybn]

As if I give a sh1t.

Apparently some fans would take anyone (*****, greedy b4st4rd, rapist, misogynist, whatever), as long as they were a world class player. Doesn't sit easily.

Poor Mr WTF has lost his marbles again

But .... HE DOESNT GIVE A ****!

A delightful fella

[WTF11]

Poor Mr WTF has lost his marbles again

But .... HE DOESNT GIVE A ****!

A delightful fella

You really are a dumb son-of-a-b1tch.

Just to be clear, for your benefit only, I don't care whether fellow posters think the threads I start (or contribute to) are good bad or indifferent,whether they like them or not, etc etc, if I have an opinion (and I usually do) I'll express it, end of (unlike you, whos only apparent role in Footymad is to make supposedly "humorous" ripostes to my posts).

At least some of the other respondents were prepared to volunteer an opinion, I suspect thats just a tad too much to expect of those last few brain cells bouncing around in that vast empty space between your ears.

[BelfastAndy]

Lol. You were pissed (obviously) when you started thread and now you're dying with a hangover! 😂🤣 wee joke ffs.

[WTF11]

Lol. You were pissed (obviously) when you started thread and now you're dying with a hangover! ���� wee joke ffs.

Err, why would you suggest I was pi55ed? Hazard is on TV, promoting those little brown biscuits that the coffee shops insist on putting on your saucer when you get a coffee, despite the fact that he rakes in more in a week than all of the Leeds 1st team squad put together. I was asking a genuine (if hypothetical) question about whether Leeds fans would want such a player in the Leeds squad.

(And I don't get hangovers).

As for "wee jokes", Mavo is incapable of those, at least where it concerns responding to a post of mine, when any scintilla of a sense of humour is totally lacking.

[MrsORichSenior]

WTF11 You state 'greedy bas*****' ........ Of today's game.

Players of 1970s had contracts/endorsements for boots - think several Leeds players had one with Leeds based company Stylo Matchmakers boots who also had Georgie Best playing in a pair of swish side laced two colour tone jobs ........

Today is no different but what is staggering is the money sports companies shell out to young apprentice pro's of today and how it's payed to 'em - no actual 'fixed sums' of money involved (which is standard for any player of that young age) but clever incentives deals ...................

The above leaked contract of a young non UK young pro shows what goes on ...............

Football boots will be "donated" by the company, which means that the players will be sent boots to play with presumably at their choice from the available range. So basically football boots will just arrive for you to wear. Every young lad's dream delivered on a plate.

For clothes such as trendy tracksuit bottoms and hoodies, there is a yearly allowance of up to €5000/£4360 worth of goods. These goods can be ordered and must be collected from a local outlet. As you can see above contract picture this will go up for each level of the national team they reach (up to €8000 at U21s) where you can be sure a new contract will need to be arranged as the player will be well known by then.

Imagine being told you can have up to €5000 of Adidas gear delivered for free each year at 16.

Finally, the contract contains stipulations based on performance in tournaments with the national setup between U19 and U21 level. As these tournaments are frequently scouted for talent, if you are a member of a winning team you will receive a bonus of €5000 for wearing the company's products while doing so. You'll bag another €5000 if you are the tournament top scorer, or player of the tournament, or both, meaning you could be taking home a €15,000 bonus if you absolutely smash it.

That's what calibre of endorsements are available for kids so you cannot blame 'em for milking the scenarios as they proceed up the career ladder in fairness.

Even I use my Cycling club membership for discount & freebies for the veterans events I enter ....................

Was recently reading that if Villa had gone up McContract would have received a £million pound bonus even though he didn't play one game for 'em last season and is contracted to 2020 with a hefty image rights deal & boot endorsement deal .............


MOT

[joellufcprice]

What was this thread about again?

[WTF11]

WTF11 You state 'greedy bas*****' ........ Of today's game.

Players of 1970s had contracts/endorsements for boots - think several Leeds players had one with Leeds based company Stylo Matchmakers boots who also had Georgie Best playing in a pair of swish side laced two colour tone jobs ........

Today is no different but what is staggering is the money sports companies shell out to young apprentice pro's of today and how it's payed to 'em - no actual 'fixed sums' of money involved (which is standard for any player of that young age) but clever incentives deals ...................

The above leaked contract of a young non UK young pro shows what goes on ...............

Football boots will be "donated" by the company, which means that the players will be sent boots to play with presumably at their choice from the available range. So basically football boots will just arrive for you to wear. Every young lad's dream delivered on a plate.

For clothes such as trendy tracksuit bottoms and hoodies, there is a yearly allowance of up to €5000/£4360 worth of goods. These goods can be ordered and must be collected from a local outlet. As you can see above contract picture this will go up for each level of the national team they reach (up to €8000 at U21s) where you can be sure a new contract will need to be arranged as the player will be well known by then.

Imagine being told you can have up to €5000 of Adidas gear delivered for free each year at 16.

Finally, the contract contains stipulations based on performance in tournaments with the national setup between U19 and U21 level. As these tournaments are frequently scouted for talent, if you are a member of a winning team you will receive a bonus of €5000 for wearing the company's products while doing so. You'll bag another €5000 if you are the tournament top scorer, or player of the tournament, or both, meaning you could be taking home a €15,000 bonus if you absolutely smash it.

That's what calibre of endorsements are available for kids so you cannot blame 'em for milking the scenarios as they proceed up the career ladder in fairness.

Even I use my Cycling club membership for discount & freebies for the veterans events I enter ....................

Was recently reading that if Villa had gone up McContract would have received a £million pound bonus even though he didn't play one game for 'em last season and is contracted to 2020 with a hefty image rights deal & boot endorsement deal .............


MOT

What a lot of effort to completely miss the point!

I wasn't criticising any young player for taking what they can get from football-related endorsement/sponsorship and if be the first to admit that such revenues aren't exactly new ( if your frame of reference goes back to the bad old days when players were paid next to f00k all).

I asked, and reiterated that question more explicitly, whether a player on £250k/week (supposedly), plus all the footbal-related goodies he will get, who decided it's worth "stretching the brand" to advertise something totally unrelated to football, was the kind of player the fans would want at Leeds.

I remember Joe Hart coming in for a LOT of stick for endorsing Head & Shoulders, which at least kept his locks in lovely shiny condition. Now it seems a player at about the same standard can advertise and endorse just about anything and it's not seen as even remotely to be criticised.

[CalverleyBoy]

I thought it was about limbo dancing

[Billyni]

Or Monica Lewinsky

[MrsORichSenior]

I thought it was about limbo dancing

........ must admit for a mo thought I was on my cycling forum with the 'how low would you go' header.