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Thread: soo when how is rafa going to get 18 under 23s in and concentrate on the first team

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    soo when how is rafa going to get 18 under 23s in and concentrate on the first team

    s rafa going to get 18 under 23s in and concentrate on the first team

    surely the professional he is he would have had players lined up

    how do we stand if we cant field an under 23 side

    will he go for local lads
    or scour the continenet

    are all these players going to be free

    surely he cant get money from ash to spend on the under23s and 40 mill for the fis team

    why take a project on like this when it is clear tha the first team needs all his resources at the present time

    why get rid of so many in one go
    why not over a couple of seasons

    all reasonable qquestions i think

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    he's gonna delegate, just like they do everywhere else. with him overseeing the whole lot.

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    so do you think it is realistic to get 18 players in and settled in a few weeks

    who is he delegating this to

    he hasnt gotten rid of the majority of the coaches

    and surely if he has delegated it
    the people he has he mustthink are more than capable of bringing in 18 players and staff
    ad etting them playing all in a matter of weeks

    he has a lot of faith in his backroom staff

    if my manage rsuggested such a thing i dont think i would ley him loose
    as it seems a huge task to me

    i wouldnt want my staff under that pressure

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    The under 18s move up to the under 23s (with a few signings) and the under 16s move up to the under 18s...


    Natural progression.

    The whole academy needs overhauling... its been rotting for 11 yrs (what started that then?)

    Rafa has been a little pre-occupied getting us promoted, then staying up.... (which he has achieved despite the club being run like a warehouse)

    He has looked throughout the club to see if there are any young uns who can save the club a few quid, and there is precious little. He even put some out on loan, but they are so good, they dont get games for Crewe or Gateshead etc.

    Ive watched the under 23s several times over the oast couple of years and to be honest, theyve been fecking awful.
    Last edited by waalsendmick; 11-06-2018 at 07:22 PM. Reason: Because my thumbs are like walls pork sausages.

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    well the under 18s aint all that wallsend

    so getting rid of so many as there wasnt enough coming through seems pointless in taking a load of kids on not good enough for the eunder 23 s last season

    i agree it needs over hauling of that their is no doubt

    but to me it looks like taking your engine out and stripping it to give it an oil change

    little and often

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    If the players in their early 20's are never going to make it, let them go somewhere else, give them another chance.

    It puts the next lot onto their last chance while the overhaul continues.

    Rome wasnt built in a day....

    But 11 yrs of neglect are gonna take a long time to put right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waalsendmick View Post
    The under 18s move up to the under 23s (with a few signings) and the under 16s move up to the under 18s...


    Natural progression.

    The whole academy needs overhauling... its been rotting for 11 yrs (what started that then?)

    Rafa has been a little pre-occupied getting us promoted, then staying up.... (which he has achieved despite the club being run like a warehouse)

    He has looked throughout the club to see if there are any young uns who can save the club a few quid, and there is precious little. He even put some out on loan, but they are so good, they dont get games for Crewe or Gateshead etc.

    Ive watched the under 23s several times over the oast couple of years and to be honest, theyve been fecking awful.
    They were awful last season Mick but quite a few were loaned out. We got rid of 18 but do we really need to bring 18 in as suggested by OP. As you say its a natural progression through the ranks and maybe try to bring 5 or 6 in with a bit of potential.

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    they always het rid of a high percentage of the youth/reserve players.

    it's nothing new... maybe there was an extra couple this time.... but at the end of the day as long as they can fulfil obligations, playing wise then there is nowt spoiling.

    as has been said this has been long time coming and should have been done years ago

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    youth players yes
    under 23s no

    a lot of youths dont get pro contracts
    these all had contracts

    i wonder how much it is costing the club to get these of the bpooks

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    Far better to get rid now than have another Collback on the books,if ya shoite you have to go..
    And before anybody starts,I know sideways Jack was from THEIR academy but you know what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toonlegend View Post
    they always het rid of a high percentage of the youth/reserve players.

    it's nothing new... maybe there was an extra couple this time.... but at the end of the day as long as they can fulfil obligations, playing wise then there is nowt spoiling.

    as has been said this has been long time coming and should have been done years ago
    it should have been done years ago

    and under most clubs it is
    but not on this scale

    if they were gotten rid of as they werent gong to make first team footy
    what makes anyone think under 18s will

    if he is getting rid of them surely he must be bringing in better quality

    players that can make the first team

    mow i might be wrong
    but those type of players usually coem at a price

    do we have money to spend on these plyers

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    Quote Originally Posted by pboromag View Post
    it should have been done years ago

    and under most clubs it is
    but not on this scale

    if they were gotten rid of as they werent gong to make first team footy
    what makes anyone think under 18s will

    if he is getting rid of them surely he must be bringing in better quality

    players that can make the first team

    mow i might be wrong
    but those type of players usually coem at a price

    do we have money to spend on these plyers
    Well I'm sure our wonderful owner, will make all the funds that the club generates available to our esteemed manager..
    It's just a pity that our turnover apart from Sky money has fallen more than any other prem club in the last ELEVEN years

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    it is a dammed pity
    more reason to be confused as to why they have done yhis know

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    Quote Originally Posted by pboromag View Post
    youth players yes
    under 23s no

    a lot of youths dont get pro contracts
    these all had contracts

    i wonder how much it is costing the club to get these of the bpooks
    They didnt have contracts anymore, that is why they have been released.

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    u23's do too....... how many do you see in the first team squad ?? very few and far between, those that make the step up are the exception, not the rule... so what happens to the rest of them every year.... they get released/moved on/whatever,

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