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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by pboromag View Post
    him and mitro most other managers in our position would swalow their pride and work with them
    It's not about swallowing pride, it's about instilling a doctrine of discipline and team work. How come other players, past and present heap praise on him?

  2. #22
    At this point, we need to accept that he's gone despite showing a lot of quality without doing a lot wrong.
    I'm hoping we invest in LB cover with the money. Not a lot of faith in incoming transfers though.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by pboromag View Post
    him and mitro most other managers in our position would swalow their pride and work with them
    Mitro is too slow for most Prem defenders but just because he scored a few in the Championship you want him to stay, and who would you drop for Mbemba if he doesn't want to warm the bench,Lejuene or Lascelles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherwoodmag View Post
    Mitro is too slow for most Prem defenders but just because he scored a few in the Championship you want him to stay, and who would you drop for Mbemba if he doesn't want to warm the bench,Lejuene or Lascelles.
    Absolute nonsense.
    Where has this too slow thing come from?
    He's not a whippet but he's not a cart horse either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    Absolute nonsense.
    Where has this too slow thing come from?
    He's not a whippet but he's not a cart horse either.
    I've watched him at SJP and most defenders get the better of him he gets frustrated and lashes out.
    All this bumping him up because he scored for Fulham in the Championship perhaps that is his level.

    Gayle scored 22 in the Championship so maybe we shouldn't replace him either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherwoodmag View Post
    I've watched him at SJP and most defenders get the better of him he gets frustrated and lashes out.
    All this bumping him up because he scored for Fulham in the Championship perhaps that is his level.

    Gayle scored 22 in the Championship so maybe we shouldn't replace him either.
    We really need two Premiership standard strikers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pboromag View Post
    You cant say anything negative against rafa
    Of course you can. I just did. But when everything you have to say about him is negative, and yet he's still delivering results, it becomes extremely hollow. This is why people have little time for what you're saying; it's always a deconstructive brigade of criticism. Any angle you can find you'll use to have a go at Rafa, and it's tiring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherwoodmag View Post
    I've watched him at SJP and most defenders get the better of him he gets frustrated and lashes out.
    All this bumping him up because he scored for Fulham in the Championship perhaps that is his level.

    Gayle scored 22 in the Championship so maybe we shouldn't replace him either.
    Nahhh mate.
    I'll give you one thing. When he first came he was what you can describe as over enthusiastic and rash.
    This got him a reputation.
    His ability to bully defenders got him targeted and his inexperience at that level in the premier league let him down.
    His pace is absolutely fine for the player he is.
    He's a big unit, not a whippet.
    He can battle it out with the strongest and even most pacey defenders over a short spurt.

    His aerial ability and his clever off the ball working makes him a massive asset...especially now.
    And let me tell you one more thing.
    He won't get targeted any more than what he did in the championship and in fact he could become prolific if used correctly in the right set up.

    As for Gayle. He's a totally different kettle of fish. A different kind of striker altogether.

  9. #29
    I think Mitro is too slow and he canít hold the ball up. He might be good in a team that has two good wingers that can get to the byline and whip some decent crosses in but we donít have that luxury

    Mitro is a box to goal line old fashioned centre forward if you look around the Premiership not many teams have this type of centre forward now

    For me we need to replace Mitro and Gayle as they have both been found lacking at this level.

    The off the ball elbow and 3 match ban was a death kneel for him at the Toon and it has been stated that he doesnít do enough in training

    If we had the money it would be nice to keep in as an impact player coming off the bench but thatís not going to happen.

  10. #30
    Mitro has a strange playing style. When the ball gets knocked up to him, and he has a defender on his back, he looks at the defender, then faces the ball.

    He then jams both feet into the ground and braces himself against the defender. However, this makes him smaller, as he bends at the knee.

    The defender simply leans over him and heads it.

    Good header of the ball from crosses into the box, but too slow.

    Saying that I rate him higher than Slimani based on the little I saw of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    Nahhh mate.
    I'll give you one thing. When he first came he was what you can describe as over enthusiastic and rash.
    This got him a reputation.
    His ability to bully defenders got him targeted and his inexperience at that level in the premier league let him down.
    His pace is absolutely fine for the player he is.
    He's a big unit, not a whippet.
    He can battle it out with the strongest and even most pacey defenders over a short spurt.

    His aerial ability and his clever off the ball working makes him a massive asset...especially now.
    And let me tell you one more thing.
    He won't get targeted any more than what he did in the championship and in fact he could become prolific if used correctly in the right set up.

    As for Gayle. He's a totally different kettle of fish. A different kind of striker altogether.
    I think you have been watching a different player to me. Not that great a jumper in the air, slow and not that clever a mover. He doesn't bully defenders - he got bullied and lost his head and got sent off. Seriously. Have another look. He isnt the athelete you think he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sclox View Post
    I think you have been watching a different player to me. Not that great a jumper in the air, slow and not that clever a mover. He doesn't bully defenders - he got bullied and lost his head and got sent off. Seriously. Have another look. He isnt the athelete you think he is.
    Yep we do seem to have been watching different players.

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    I've seen milk turn quicker than Mitro.

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    I personally think he is Championship level, no more, wouldn't bother me to see him go.

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    I think he could be a prem player but equally he doesn't fit out system.

    No shame in that, best thing is for him to be sold and the funds used for a player that does fit how Rafa wants us to play.

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    In attempting to gain a bit of perspective on Mitro, it would be interesting to see how we felt about Gayle if he had been in the same situation, i.e. he'd professed his love for us, was a passionate, hot-headed chest beater who folk thought deserved a chance and who went on loan to the Chimpo and scored a hatful. We all know Gayle isn't good enough to be a starter in the Prem (personally I don't think he's even good enough as back-up) but he did score a stack in the Chimpo...didn't stop him being gash in the Prem.

    I suppose the difference is his (Mitro's) international record but I think his goalscoring feats at Fulham have possibly clouded people's memories of him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    In attempting to gain a bit of perspective on Mitro, it would be interesting to see how we felt about Gayle if he had been in the same situation, i.e. he'd professed his love for us, was a passionate, hot-headed chest beater who folk thought deserved a chance and who went on loan to the Chimpo and scored a hatful. We all know Gayle isn't good enough to be a starter in the Prem (personally I don't think he's even good enough as back-up) but he did score a stack in the Chimpo...didn't stop him being gash in the Prem.

    I suppose the difference is his (Mitro's) international record but I think his goalscoring feats at Fulham have possibly clouded people's memories of him?
    That seems like a reasonable explanation. For me, I just want to see him given a proper go as I think he can do more for us than what he has done so far. Having said that, if we sell him and get in a striker that Rafa wants and who has quality, I'll be a very happy boy. I'm not that bothered if Mitro leaves, I just think there's more to him than what he's shown with us.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by HughieG View Post
    That seems like a reasonable explanation. For me, I just want to see him given a proper go as I think he can do more for us than what he has done so far. Having said that, if we sell him and get in a striker that Rafa wants and who has quality, I'll be a very happy boy. I'm not that bothered if Mitro leaves, I just think there's more to him than what he's shown with us.
    Yeah he thumps his chest and kisses the badge but in reality he couldnít trap a bag of cement

    As I said earlier he is an end of game 20 mins sub

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