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    England Russia WC 2018

    Decent start. First 20 mins arguably amongst the best football played at the WC so far. Something to build on there. 2 goals for our main striker to take pressure off..

    All good, yes..?

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    A very good performance. I thought the technology was designed to pick up the off-the-ball fouls. It looked like Olympic wrestling, with Kane losing the contest!
    Absolutely no need for Walker to raise his arm, as he had already successfully shepherded the ball past the Tunisian.
    Henderson and Trippier were excellent. Lingard ran miles, but he did miss a couple of sitters.
    I really don't see how anyone can complain about that performance - except for some of the finishing. England kept the ball calmly in midfield, but released the ball wide very effectively.
    Sterling was as frustrating as ever in an England shirt. You can't fault his effort, but he seems to run into blind alleys a lot. Perhaps it might be better to use him and Rashford the other way round. That is, Rashford starting and RS coming on for 20 minutes.
    Credit to Southgate, though: a very strong team-spirit in evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AucklandRover View Post
    A very good performance. I thought the technology was designed to pick up the off-the-ball fouls. It looked like Olympic wrestling, with Kane losing the contest!
    Absolutely no need for Walker to raise his arm, as he had already successfully shepherded the ball past the Tunisian.
    Henderson and Trippier were excellent. Lingard ran miles, but he did miss a couple of sitters.
    I really don't see how anyone can complain about that performance - except for some of the finishing. England kept the ball calmly in midfield, but released the ball wide very effectively.
    Sterling was as frustrating as ever in an England shirt. You can't fault his effort, but he seems to run into blind alleys a lot. Perhaps it might be better to use him and Rashford the other way round. That is, Rashford starting and RS coming on for 20 minutes.
    Credit to Southgate, though: a very strong team-spirit in evidence.
    I don't mean this in a literal sense, but it reminded me of Rovers under bowyer. Some excellent play but when the chances didn't go in, and especially after the equalizer, the doubts crept in..

    Still they kept plugging away and got what they deserved.

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    The moment the equalizer went in, Tunisia shut up shop (understandably), and it was always going to be more difficult from then on.
    The key, though, was that England didn't get impatient and change the style.
    As you say, a number of Bowyer's games followed a similar pattern - but all too often - we DIDN'T get the late goal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AucklandRover View Post
    The moment the equalizer went in, Tunisia shut up shop (understandably), and it was always going to be more difficult from then on.
    The key, though, was that England didn't get impatient and change the style.
    As you say, a number of Bowyer's games followed a similar pattern - but all too often - we DIDN'T get the late goal!

    I thought they played well last night, should've been 4 up at HT.
    You cant miss that many chances at international level and not get punished.
    While it was exciting to see a last minute, it was vrs Tunisia. Not Brazil.
    Once we play anyone half decent, we will get torn apart at the back. Stones, McGuire, Jones, Walker all have mistakes in them. A half decent side will soon see that, and take full advantage.
    Sterling simply isn't good enough. Lingard missed 4 very simple chances.

    But equally, other than Mexico, I haven't seen a half decent team yet ....maybe Spain or Portugal. The rest have been average at best. So we are no further ahead, or behind.
    Plus we have a very young squad, so that should be taken into consideration.

    Football works in very fine margins. That last minute goal covered up a huge problem, and it was only against Tunisia (who didn't have a shot in 90 mins) which utlimately will show itself down the line once the very very poor sides (like Tunisia) have been knocked out.

    There where more positives than negatives last night, but only down to that last minute header. Which Kane took very well.

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    Thank goodness that we've got a real quality goalscorer in Kane, and why he wasn't given 1 or 2 blatant pens I'll never know.
    Sterling & Lingard were awful in front of goal and they and Alli could be dropped for the next match.

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    Funnily enough, I'd have expected england to be strong on set pieces had Sam remained.

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    Sometimes I get the feeling some people feel the need to justify their former comments despite evidence presented in front of them suggesting those comments may have been hasty.

    This england team can grow into the tournament from evidence I've seen, they may just do us proud.

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    That depends on what you mean by 'do us proud' Sax, but Im a fan of our national team as well and I always will be. And I don't see the problem with fans in this country, who seem to think that supporting club over country is the norm these days.

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    Two of the best individual performances I've seen so far: Modric and Loveren against Argentina. Both superb.

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    England Ruthless. Still doing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxo1man41 View Post
    England Ruthless. Still doing well.
    Against a poor team admittedly, but lets still stick with the positives and enjoy it eh. We've smacked them and totally deserve the two wins, come on Engerland.

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    I thought the second half was disappointing. Surely they knew the goal-difference situation! Without Panama's goal, or with one extra for us, a draw with Belgium would see us top the group!
    For the Panama goal, all the players on the near side stepped up, but the ones on the far side didn't! Very poor communication. A lot of sloppy passing too. I know it was hot and it's hard to keep the adrenaline going when you're so far ahead, but I still think we should have tried harder to rub the superiority in.
    Seems odd to moan after a five-goal victory, but we will have to be much sharper and more alert against Belgium. I hope Trippier is not out for that game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AucklandRover View Post
    I thought the second half was disappointing. Surely they knew the goal-difference situation! Without Panama's goal, or with one extra for us, a draw with Belgium would see us top the group!
    For the Panama goal, all the players on the near side stepped up, but the ones on the far side didn't! Very poor communication. A lot of sloppy passing too. I know it was hot and it's hard to keep the adrenaline going when you're so far ahead, but I still think we should have tried harder to rub the superiority in.
    Seems odd to moan after a five-goal victory, but we will have to be much sharper and more alert against Belgium. I hope Trippier is not out for that game.

    Panama where just a non league side. That's the trouble with this WC. You have about 5 decent enough sides, the rest should not be there.
    It was actually quite poor, we still haven't been given a real test, and when we do, we will come untstuck.
    Even an XI picked from Div1 and 2 players would've qualified out of this group. What a decent nation would do, is work out the easiest route. For us, winning the group means we avoid Brazil in the quarters (who will get stronger) and play an out of sorts Germany instead. And we would likely play Senegal or Japan in the next round, and avoid the dangerous Columbians.

    I will get really excited and start to believe once we play someone approaching half decent. I just fear we will be out once that happens.

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    I said exactly the same on another board Aucks, that it was annoying for us to concede like that when we were coasting at 6-0. That goal conceded might mean we miss out on winning the group now.

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    Young England quarter finalists. Whatever happens now, I do believe Southgates boys have done us proud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxo1man41 View Post
    Young England quarter finalists. Whatever happens now, I do believe Southgates boys have done us proud.
    Yes Aucks I agree, that we have exceeded all expectations when it comes to this already impressive WC tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acido View Post
    Yes Aucks I agree, that we have exceeded all expectations when it comes to this already impressive WC tournament.
    Aucks..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxo1man41 View Post
    Aucks..?
    We're like twins, Saxo!

    Shock, horror news...an England team holds its nerve in a penalty shoot-out.
    To be honest, I don't think Colombia deserved to win (any more than Russia did). In fact, I'm not sure how Colombia finished with eleven.
    More strange refereeing, but the oddest decision so far was giving only a yellow card to the Danish player who brought the Croatian down before Modric missed the penalty. What if Denmark had gone on to win? How could that possibly be fair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AucklandRover View Post
    We're like twins, Saxo!

    Shock, horror news...an England team holds its nerve in a penalty shoot-out.
    To be honest, I don't think Colombia deserved to win (any more than Russia did). In fact, I'm not sure how Colombia finished with eleven.
    More strange refereeing, but the oddest decision so far was giving only a yellow card to the Danish player who brought the Croatian down before Modric missed the penalty. What if Denmark had gone on to win? How could that possibly be fair?

    I'd have been quite disappointed had they failed to beat Panama. They are a non league side. We should be a team like that 100 times out of a hundred.And a woeful Tunisia.
    We didn't beat a poor Columbia side in 120 minutes, despite having all the possession. And they were missing their one match winner. But I am glad we finally managed to win on pens. We won't have an easier run to a semi final in our entire lives. Sweden are average. And on a par with England. Should be a tight game.
    Are we really getting excited about beating 2 non league sides and making very hard work of Columbia? As in, your almost talking they will return heroes?

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