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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackHorse View Post
    ... well Snobhead 1, thanks for your invitation to enter your tight little circle of sycophants. 1. T May has to go; she's unworthy to lead the Conservative Party, albeit it's a nest of vipers. 2. The corrupt EU will not agree to a deal unless the continental establishment get real and recognise it's all about the money and not their socialist control policy. 3. We should withdraw the 40bn offer and go for WTO rules (average overall cost +/- 4% not the stupid figures Project Fear would have us believe) and negotiate our own deals without interference from Merkel & Co.
    Totally agree....May has to go, weak and incompetent....pathetic woman.....then we tell the EU to "do one" unless we get a seriously decent trade deal.

    We have had our pants down for the last 2 years whilst we have sat around with the EU's dick up our arse....I'm sick of it.

    Couldn't care less if Labour or Cons run the country.....we need a leader with a bit of backbone to get us out of this fiasco.....May ain't it, and with hindsight probably never was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobncfc View Post
    May should step aside and let Boris and the other Brexit ultras take over and go for their new deal plan. Either itíll work, there will be no economic or travel issues, people wonít lose jobs and all is well, or it doesnít work and people of my generation and those a bit younger vote us back in with much more integration than we had before. I donít see any other way forward.
    I like it......May has to go, simple as.....if the new Tory leaders "**** it up", they are out of office.....simple really......all I know is that the EU are laughing their socks off....and it makes me angry....grrrrr

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie_mania View Post
    I voted remain (was about 60 - 40 in favour, based on not wanting to jeopardise jobs / the economy). However, now we've voted to get out, I just want out. To be honest, I'm not sure I'm even bothered what 'kind' of Brexit it is.

    The one thing that I find incredible is the time it has taken to get to the meeting last Friday.

    Vote taken - June 2016
    Meeting held - July 2018, with what seemed a 'we must reach an agreement today'
    This means .......
    Time for negotiation with EU - 8 months
    Out of EU? - March 2019

    My own time line would have been:

    Vote taken - June 2016
    Meetings begin - September 2016
    Meetings every other Friday until agreement reached - latest absolute target date - March 2017
    Time for negotiation with the EU - 2 years
    Out of the EU - March 2019

    Criminal I think that it's dragged on like it has. Putting the future of our once great country in peril.
    Again, totally agree.....it has taken us 2 years since we voted "OUT".......but still nobody has actually figured out....HOW TO GET US OUT....it is a joke.....these people, 1000's of politicians and civil servants, are supposed to be smart and intelligent....this is ridiculous.....the EU are trying to scare the rest of Europe into staying, whilst we appear to be scared of leaving, and now we have senior ministers resigning because we appear to be trying to stay in...one foot in, one foot out appears to be our new position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie_mania View Post
    I voted remain (was about 60 - 40 in favour, based on not wanting to jeopardise jobs / the economy). However, now we've voted to get out, I just want out. To be honest, I'm not sure I'm even bothered what 'kind' of Brexit it is.

    The one thing that I find incredible is the time it has taken to get to the meeting last Friday.

    Vote taken - June 2016
    Meeting held - July 2018, with what seemed a 'we must reach an agreement today'
    This means .......
    Time for negotiation with EU - 8 months
    Out of EU? - March 2019

    My own time line would have been:

    Vote taken - June 2016
    Meetings begin - September 2016
    Meetings every other Friday until agreement reached - latest absolute target date - March 2017
    Time for negotiation with the EU - 2 years
    Out of the EU - March 2019

    Criminal I think that it's dragged on like it has. Putting the future of our once great country in peril.
    Oh dear Maggie Mania you fool.............!!!
    you seem to have forgotten the Tories Cunning Plans !!
    1) Never, No matter the circumstances or the question, Never, Never answer the question What is Brexit....( only answer a question with a question and thout shall be Brexit Means Brexit !!!)
    2) If or When anyone askes you what you would like to see from this Brexit process, what your demands or expectations would possibly be, say nothing at all ,other that that its a secret, if we tell you then we cannot use it as a bargaining tool !!.
    3) work to the Ethos the longer it takes to discuss any of the above,the stronger we will be in negotiations and the EU cannot refuse us anything .........!
    so far so good, we only have to hold out for Eight months and the EU will collapse and coming begging us to leave but have free trade ,stop all free movement and anything else in between.
    hoooraaaayy for May and the Tories

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarquinbeech View Post
    Again, totally agree.....it has taken us 2 years since we voted "OUT".......but still nobody has actually figured out....HOW TO GET US OUT....it is a joke......
    So the prediction I made two years ago has proved to be spot on!

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    Nigel Farage has apparently said that if it's not sorted by next March he'll consider taking leadership of UKIP again!

    You couldn't make it up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobncfc View Post
    May should step aside and let Boris and the other Brexit ultras take over and go for their new deal plan. Either itíll work, there will be no economic or travel issues, people wonít lose jobs and all is well, or it doesnít work and people of my generation and those a bit younger vote us back in with much more integration than we had before. I donít see any other way forward.
    Jacob, can you tell me what your specific reasons are for favouring Remaining in the EU rather than Leaving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackHorse View Post
    3. We should withdraw the 40bn offer and go for WTO rules (average overall cost +/- 4% not the stupid figures Project Fear would have us believe) and negotiate our own deals without interference from Merkel & Co.
    All things being equal, WTO would give us a tariff* surplus, as we import more than we export. Problem is things aren't equal.






    * Obviously things would go up in the shops, unless of course there's some clever redistribution of said tariff's to negate their impact

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    As for the new Brexit minister, he's best known for campaigning against EU labour law. Wanting to scrap the 48 hours law and scrap the minimum wage, so we can all work longer for less. Just another swivel-eyed psycho
    Already dubbed Raab C. Brexit up in Scotland

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    Already dubbed Raab C. Brexit up in Scotland

    Seems the EU is non too keen on Maybot's plans either.



    http://www.itv.com/news/2018-07-12/i...xit-plan-most/

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    Quote Originally Posted by AltyPie View Post
    Jacob, can you tell me what your specific reasons are for favouring Remaining in the EU rather than Leaving?
    He can't give you an answer Alty, it's the same as those idiots protesting at Blenheim against Trump. When interviewed by the BBC (their free PR agency) all they can bleat about is his policies(???) and his attitude towards women. Doesn't mean a thing to them that the US is booming, more jobs created as companies make more and small things like progress on North Korea being made. They don't understand the first thing about business and the huge independent deals the US can give us and we give them.

    And before I finish, I see that insidious Owen 'Manhood' Jones is down there spouting his crap as usual. Strange that Ian Paisley Jnr when interviewed was cut off quickly when he called the protesters 'idiots'. The old Beeb doesn't like being challenged on anything that isn't PC in their book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countygump View Post
    Seems the EU is non too keen on Maybot's plans either.



    http://www.itv.com/news/2018-07-12/i...xit-plan-most/
    I would treat anything that the EU were "keen on" , with the utmost suspicion. They want to punish, not conciliate .

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriouspie View Post
    He can't give you an answer Alty, it's the same as those idiots protesting at Blenheim against Trump. When interviewed by the BBC (their free PR agency) all they can bleat about is his policies(???) and his attitude towards women. Doesn't mean a thing to them that the US is booming, more jobs created as companies make more and small things like progress on North Korea being made. They don't understand the first thing about business and the huge independent deals the US can give us and we give them.

    And before I finish, I see that insidious Owen 'Manhood' Jones is down there spouting his crap as usual. Strange that Ian Paisley Jnr when interviewed was cut off quickly when he called the protesters 'idiots'. The old Beeb doesn't like being challenged on anything that isn't PC in their book.
    Ah the indefatigable Owen -The Guardian glove puppet

    I think he's on so often for comedy value ,and the fact that the people from The Beeb who book him were probably at Oxford at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    Already dubbed Raab C. Brexit up in Scotland
    As we already have wee Jimmy Krankie at Holyrood , it might be the basis of a great double act

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Tune in to question time now.

    Typical BBC loaded programme, re. the EU

    3 remoaners to 2 leavers, on the panel. (including the dead wood SNP, who don't care except for independence)

    Kings lynn voted 2:1 to leave.
    Yet the audience is pro remain slaughtering the government and booing anything about leaving.

    Absolute stitch up and spoiling a fair debate.
    If you didn't see Mark Spencer on the local news tonight Tricky, he is fully behind May's BRINO proposal and thinks its great.
    I've already emailed his orifice with my withdrawal from voting for him again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dam617 View Post
    If you didn't see Mark Spencer on the local news tonight Tricky, he is fully behind May's BRINO proposal and thinks its great.
    I've already emailed his orifice with my withdrawal from voting for him again.
    I would be ashamed to admit I had voted for him in the first place.

    Nice to see Trump tell our harridan PM how it is. He has utter contempt for her, and quite rightly so.

    Incidentally, how do you email someone's arsehole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohinen View Post

    Incidentally, how do you email someone's arsehole?
    Bwahahaha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohinen View Post
    Incidentally, how do you email someone's arsehole?
    on an AOL account

    On May, the pressure's going to pile up more and more on her now. Even though they've worried about her health in the past I can't muster any sympathy - it was too clear she wanted to be a dictator if everything worked out the way she wanted. So it's a question of when a leadership challenge comes, not if.

    Then the fun and games will start because there's even less chance of getting a no-deal brexit through parliament than May's fudge. Another election or another referendum are the only ways out of the deadlock. By which time May will just be a bad memory

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    But don't underestimate the great service May's done the tories in stretching it out and killing time, like a cheating world cup player rolling around the floor.
    She actually signed off on a soft Brexit in December, then allowed Davis to contradict that on live tv just 2 days later! If she'd have acted then, triggering a leadership contest, a brexiteer pm would already be discredited by now. And there's no way the tories could have two leadership changes on a minority govt without a GE.

    As it is, a brexiter might become leader right at the death of the article 50 period, get the red top tabloids singing his praises, be endorsed by Murdoch and Trump with the bbc too cowed to do anything but play along. But all of that won't change the parliamentary arithmetic or the chaos Brexit will cause. There'll be no escaping a GE and/or 2nd referendum anyway.
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    [QUOTE=seriouspie;
    And before I finish, I see that insidious Owen 'Manhood' Jones is down there spouting his crap as usual. Strange that Ian Paisley Jnr when interviewed was cut off quickly when he called the protesters 'idiots'. The old Beeb doesn't like being challenged on anything that isn't PC in their book.[/QUOTE]

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