Reply With QuoteBack to May. It's pretty clear she's toast now, just a matter of time.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ns-land-brexit
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That's simplistic and only half right. What follows is paraphrased from the book Manual of Political Science (Hague/Harrop).Originally Posted by Bohinen
The origins of the terms left and right date back to revolutionary France, where the pro-monarchy noblemen sat to the right of the president, while the radicals and commoners sat to the left.
Sitting on the right meant supporting the interests of the aristocracy, monarchy and church. Sitting on the left meant being in favour of a secular republic and civil rights.
Because left and right are not words which denote a meaning fixed for once and for all, but rather evolve according to time, space and situation, it's difficult to provide a fixed definition, however we are able to outline some common characteristics in the policies of left and right wing parties in 50 democratic countries post WW2:
Left - peace, internationalism, democracy, public planning and intervention in the economy, commercial safeguards, social security, education, trade unions
Right - support for armed forces, authority and morality, free market, free commerce, law and order, social harmony around a traditional national lifestyle, freedom
As has been mentioned on here before the spectrum of left and right is often portrayed as a horseshoe, because the extreme left and the extreme right have some characteristics in common. But they are not the same, hence they keep fighting each other.
Mussolini was famously a member of the Italian socialist party in the early 20th century, and when in power he enacted certain policies in favour of the poor.
But it's also true that he was also removed from the socialist party for his views, and the majority of his other policies were pro monarchy, strongly discriminatory towards women, not to mention some of his more famous policies.
The extreme left and extreme right have in common 1 - their authoritarianism and 2 - some aspects of their economic policy, and that's about all. It doesn't make them the same.
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Back to May. It's pretty clear she's toast now, just a matter of time.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ns-land-brexit
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So you think you can favour left wing economic politics quite divorced from social and moral consequences?
Btw, I wanted Trump here so he could witness how people felt about him. The only reason I wouldn't want him here is because he's an atrociously ill-mannered house guest.
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Well, let's look at the results of Corbyn's joke shop position. As many of us have said, the best bet with Brexit is to stand back and let the Tories destroy themselves.
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/10013
Following the midweek YouGov poll, there are two more polls in today’s papers showing the Conservatives falling back behind Labour in the wake of the cabinet Brexit “deal” and the Davis/Johnson resignations.
Opinum in the Observer, conducted between Tuesday and Friday, has topline figures of CON 36%(-6), LAB 40%(nc), LDEM 8%(+1), UKIP 8%(+5). Changes are from June. There is also new Deltapoll figures in the Sun on Sunday, which have the Conservatives on 37%(-4) and Labour on 42%(+1) – changes are again on June.
This means we now have three polls conducted since the Davis/Johnson resignations, all of which have shown Conservative support dropping down behind Labour
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I'm actually feeling a bit of sympathy for Mrs May. While she did herself no favours by calling the snap election and basing the Tory campaign on May v Corbyn, she now has an impossible puzzle to solve. Whatever solution she tries (and the Chequers agreement might be the best of a bad job) some faction will cause it to fail. Most of her own party are more interested in their future career opportunities than working on the best deal for the UK, and most of the opposition parties are more interested in bringing the government down than working on the best deal for the UK. I'm sure some on here will be coming in their pants at Trump's lunatic advice to her to sue the EU rather than negotiate with them, but we all know that's not going to happen. Unfortunately, the real losers in all this will be the general public, especially the less well off general public. Farage has a lot to answer for.
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I'd have a tiny bit of sympathy too if it wasn't for the time factor and if she'd have arrived at this position at least a year earlier.
So the procrastination is either gross incompetence or deliberate connivance to play for time (both brexiters and remainers can have their conspiracy theories here). Either way, it's shocking that 16 months after triggering A50 the EU receives the first statement of what the UK actually wants.
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You were doing so well there...... until the last sentence.
The British people were never truly in favour of the "new" EU, that's why it never adopted the Euro or the Schengen area.....it has always been a tad suspicious of the Frogs and Krauts, along with the tax-dodging Eyeties, running our country via the backdoor....why is the Monty Python "don't mention ze war" sketch so funny? because beneath the surface, 90% of the Brits are John Cleese in that sketch....IMO....it's also another reason we love to beat them at football, and smash up most of Europe at the same time.
Farage never created any of that....he simply happened to be the right man at the right time....plus, like it or not, he oozes charisma......sorry.
We started this whole "European adventure" as a simple agreement on waiving tariffs on coal and steel to rebuild Europe after the war, that progressed to the Common Market (a superb idea to waive tariffs over a common trading area)....and little by little we ended up as a vassal state, politically controlled from some ****ty country that most people cannot even pinpoint on a world map.....
...this is the equivalent of me popping over to borrow Elite's gardening shears....and within 6 months I've got my feet up on his coffee table, one hand using his remote control, the other clutching a can of his Worthington E whilst gazing adoringly at his missus, or daughter, and shouting..... "Oi, hurry up with my breakfast Elite....and btw, my eggs were a bit too runny last time mate"
Jeez, we cannot even get on with the Scots or Irish, and they're actually attached to us by a land bridge and an Olympic-sized swimming pool respectively and a common-ish language.....is that Farage's fault as well?
Huge swathes of Europe were getting nervous about ever-increasing integration....there was even talk of Turkey joining, Gawd help us.....and a European Army, Sieg Heil!.....it was only a question of time before at least one country made a dash for the exit door....and I'm proud to say that the already Euro-skeptic Brits were first in the queue.....the problem is, if we try to keep one foot in the door, as May is suggesting, we're likely to get a broken ankle from the stampeding Hungarians, Bulgarians, Austrians, Greeks and Italians (once they've seen their credit card bill) and possibly the Poles if migrants are forced on them.
ps If Europe ever returns to a basic Common Market....I'll vote for re-joining
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Farage is the ultimate hypocrite - in marriage, in politics, in lifestyle, in fake altruism. Frage is in it for Farage, more than most.
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I'll show you the ultimate hypocrite Sid.
One who could have turned Europe on it's head and cause many innocent deaths for ever. Farage doesn't even come close.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMehONsM-GI
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Do Mexicans get a vote in UK elections?
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