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    The sunlit uplands are in view.

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    I don't remember a diet of spam and pineapple rings being advertised on the side of a bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    Solar panels are a new technology in a field which is expanding rapidly thanks to growing awareness of environmental issues.

    Wetherspoons buys alcoholic drinks at a reduced price just before their expiry date and sells them cheaply.

    I have a problem seeing how either of those can be applied to dairy farming.
    Poppycock.....I was in the brewery trade and Tim Martin never bought any "close to date" stuff off us.....he was selling Youngers Scotch and John Smiths at 99p pint simply because of the vast volumes and discounts that he could attract....I sat down and surveyed our deal with him several times, and we are actually losing money on some of the products....but when you included the NBA and Becks etc, we made an overall profit.

    ....plus it kept out our competitors......we eventually shoveled the deal over to Ruddles because he kept squeezing our ****y margin....but as a strategy it worked.

    He became a multi-millionaire, the same as Derek Mapp after we sold him his first pub, the half-moon at Whitwell....and S&N went from number 5 brewer in the UK to numero Uno in 20 years.....it was a win-win scenario for Wetherspoons, Tom Cobleigh and ultimately Heineken.

    Perhaps that might explain to Driller how reduced prices, increased competition and innovation can drive a market forward....exactly why THE CHEAP PRICE OF SOLAR PANELS is driving the market forward exponentially as it replaces coal and nuclear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i961pie View Post
    It was in response to selling things at a lower price and still making a good profit.
    Both examples were very abstract though compared to what we're talking about here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarquinbeech View Post
    Poppycock.....I was in the brewery trade and Tim Martin never bought any "close to date" stuff off us.....he was selling Youngers Scotch and John Smiths at 99p pint simply because of the vast volumes and discounts that he could attract....I sat down and surveyed our deal with him several times, and we are actually losing money on some of the products....but when you included the NBA and Becks etc, we made an overall profit.

    ....plus it kept out our competitors......we eventually shoveled the deal over to Ruddles because he kept squeezing our ****y margin....but as a strategy it worked.

    He became a multi-millionaire, the same as Derek Mapp after we sold him his first pub, the half-moon at Whitwell....and S&N went from number 5 brewer in the UK to numero Uno in 20 years.....it was a win-win scenario for Wetherspoons, Tom Cobleigh and ultimately Heineken.

    Perhaps that might explain to Driller how reduced prices, increased competition and innovation can drive a market forward....exactly why THE CHEAP PRICE OF SOLAR PANELS is driving the market forward exponentially as it replaces coal and nuclear.
    I remember reading an economics book with a case study about Wetherspoons and their 'just in time' approach to stock management, and part of that was buying stock close to its expiry date. Maybe they did it before they got big but not anymore, or maybe it's an urban myth and they've never done it.

    In any case I am not against progress or markets developing (in fact that's an accusation you could throw at most Brexiters who are against globalisation) I just don't see the relevance of the examples.

    A couple of years ago dairy farmers were complaining that the supermarkets were squeezing them too hard and they were losing money on dairy. How is increased competition going to help them?

    I understand that solar panels are cheaper than they were because it's a new product with a growing market and continuous technological breakthroughs. How many technological breakthroughs are there likely to be in the future in the field of cow milking?

    How many new consumers of milk will there be post Brexit?

    I'm sorry I don't see the relevance of the examples, and I still don't see the problem with the original article which basically reported a true situation accurately.

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    [QUOTE=drillerpie;38949667]I remember reading an economics book with a case study about Wetherspoons and their 'just in time' approach to stock management, and part of that was buying stock close to its expiry date. Maybe they did it before they got big but not anymore, or maybe it's an urban myth and they've never done it.

    In any case I am not against progress or markets developing (in fact that's an accusation you could throw at most Brexiters who are against globalisation) I just don't see the relevance of the examples.

    I thought we wanted to go global and deal with everybody but it's the EU that is stopping us?

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    Driller....Let's look at Solar briefly....a technology understood in the 1830s, nearly 200 years ago....coal and steam power was all the rage and nuclear hadn't been invented....by the 1950s the first solar panel had been produced and it was estimated that production costs were $300 per Watt, by the 70s with a sluggish market costs were down to $100 and by the 80s $40......now every man and his dog are competing in the market and I can buy panels here at below $1 per Watt, 60 cents the last time I looked.....they are even on sale in the doorway of my local hardware shop.

    The reasons for the boom are not just down to Global Warming fears but over the simple fact that in huge parts of the World, India and Africa particularly it is actually easier to use Solar than normal electric ie there are no power lines in rural areas....so your electric light is free but you have to take it along to your grocery store to swap out the Solar batteries for a few pence each day......the government don't need to build power stations and run wires and poles.

    Exactly the same happened with mobile phones, computers, ICE cars then EV cars, the internet etc etc.......the invention was made, people trickled into the market, production was ramped up, competition stepped up and all of a sudden we have a whole range of things within the price range of pretty much everyone.......look at all the poor starving immigrants flocking to the West.....all of them seem to be carrying a smartphone!!

    Now on to milk....I'm not exactly a specialist, but any market that continually moans about losing money whilst at the same time reaping government subsidies is asking for a boot up the arse....there is a gigantic market for dairy products out there, particularly cheeses because they store easily....IMO the UK dairy industry should stop whining and get on with promoting their products and grabbing a slice of the Global pie

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarquinbeech View Post

    Now on to milk....I'm not exactly a specialist, but any market that continually moans about losing money whilst at the same time reaping government subsidies is asking for a boot up the arse....there is a gigantic market for dairy products out there, particularly cheeses because they store easily....IMO the UK dairy industry should stop whining and get on with promoting their products and grabbing a slice of the Global pie


    Cheeses have massive tariffs on them under WTO rules, as per the article. If we want to reduce or remove these tariffs we will presumably have to allow other countries tariff free access to our markets on something else, but what? And what stance to take on regulations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by i961pie View Post

    I thought we wanted to go global and deal with everybody but it's the EU that is stopping us?
    It depends. What I see in the typical Brexiter's attitude is a rather vague idea that we should trade globally, free trade agreements with everybody without admitting we'll have to make concessions to get them, plus an equally vague idea about market forces, letting the market decide, as per Tarquin's post if dairy farmers aren't making much money they should shape up and get their act together, become more competitive.

    This also applies to pretty much every other sector apart from low skilled manual workers who should under no conditions be exposed to any competition ever, in fact they should be protected.
    Last edited by drillerpie; 19-07-2018 at 03:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    It depends. What I see in the typical Brexiter's attitude is a rather vague idea that we should trade globally, free trade agreements with everybody without admitting we'll have to make concessions to get them, plus an equally vague idea about market forces, letting the market decide, as per Tarquin's post if dairy farmers aren't making much money they should shape up and get their act together, become more competitive.

    This also applies to pretty much every other sector apart from low skilled manual workers who should under no conditions be exposed to any competition ever, in fact they should be protected.
    Well said, Driller, and no awareness of personnel, time and money required for the incredible range of work which will come the way of the civil service et al.

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    Wow what a thread, 239 posts in & it proves beyond doubt that a few of you love arguing for the sake of it, I can't be bothered to drag myself through the whole thread but has anyone actually changed their opinions, stance, allegiance etc since it started? or are we still agreeing or slagging off posters on who they are rather than what they post? I do realise that I should stay off threads that don't interest me but I find that the " I agree with you" or the " you are obviously fick because I don't like what you have posted in the past" rather amusing.

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