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    OT: Old Mrs. May's fudge shoppe

    That's what tory MPs call 10 Downing St. apparently

    Another prediction thread (no need for anyone to get into it again!). What do you think will come out of the cabinet's 'weekend away' at Chequers?

    A) A clear facing down of the no-deal hard brexiteers, probably leading to a leadership challenge sometime soon
    B ) Decisive break from the soft brexit backers in the cabinet
    C) More fudge, delay the choice again

    I've no clue. Probably C on past form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    That's what tory MPs call 10 Downing St. apparently

    Another prediction thread (no need for anyone to get into it again!). What do you think will come out of the cabinet's 'weekend away' at Chequers?

    A) A clear facing down of the no-deal hard brexiteers, probably leading to a leadership challenge sometime soon
    B ) Decisive break from the soft brexit backers in the cabinet
    C) More fudge, delay the choice again

    I've no clue. Probably C on past form.
    Well I'll tell you. It won't be any of the above.

    The Irish border problem will be solved by technology meaning approx. 96% of goods will freely flow, leaving only 4% of tariffs to be sorted. With this out of the way and the intended declaration to reclaim our fisheries quickly, all will be fair and square ......... obviously small concessions but not many.

    Laws, Border control & Money will again be ours as voted for. Don't forget the trump card in all this. We are rich compared to many in the EU and they want our dosh. Forget all that's gone by, we're coming to the sharp end of the negotiations now ... when things matter and all the posturing finishes. Without our cash plus the added present unrest in Europe, they will be crapping themselves if we walk away.

    Money talks ..... always has, always will and we hold the purse strings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    That's what tory MPs call 10 Downing St. apparently

    Another prediction thread (no need for anyone to get into it again!). What do you think will come out of the cabinet's 'weekend away' at Chequers?

    A) A clear facing down of the no-deal hard brexiteers, probably leading to a leadership challenge sometime soon
    B ) Decisive break from the soft brexit backers in the cabinet
    C) More fudge, delay the choice again

    I've no clue. Probably C on past form.

    Hope A, most likely C.

    Interesting!

    http://www.wired.co.uk/article/irish-border-brexit-tech

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriouspie View Post
    Well I'll tell you. It won't be any of the above.

    The Irish border problem will be solved by technology meaning approx. 96% of goods will freely flow, leaving only 4% of tariffs to be sorted. With this out of the way and the intended declaration to reclaim our fisheries quickly, all will be fair and square ......... obviously small concessions but not many.

    Laws, Border control & Money will again be ours as voted for. Don't forget the trump card in all this. We are rich compared to many in the EU and they want our dosh. Forget all that's gone by, we're coming to the sharp end of the negotiations now ... when things matter and all the posturing finishes. Without our cash plus the added present unrest in Europe, they will be crapping themselves if we walk away.

    Money talks ..... always has, always will and we hold the purse strings.
    Ah the voice of the Optimists Of Narnia !

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    That's what tory MPs call 10 Downing St. apparently

    Another prediction thread (no need for anyone to get into it again!). What do you think will come out of the cabinet's 'weekend away' at Chequers?

    A) A clear facing down of the no-deal hard brexiteers, probably leading to a leadership challenge sometime soon
    B ) Decisive break from the soft brexit backers in the cabinet
    C) More fudge, delay the choice again

    I've no clue. Probably C on past form.
    I predict that the latest nerve gas attack will be blamed on a Brexiteer - Jacob Rees Mogg did done it - with a cloak round his face, like the Hooded Claw.

    He's posh and the most articulate advocate of leaving - he'll do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    That's what tory MPs call 10 Downing St. apparently

    Another prediction thread (no need for anyone to get into it again!). What do you think will come out of the cabinet's 'weekend away' at Chequers?

    A) A clear facing down of the no-deal hard brexiteers, probably leading to a leadership challenge sometime soon
    B ) Decisive break from the soft brexit backers in the cabinet
    C) More fudge, delay the choice again

    I've no clue. Probably C on past form.
    I know there's not much happening on the football front (accept for the most interesting pre season for years & England in the quarters) so let's start yet another pro/anti Brexit thread & see who has changed their opinion since the last one, my money is on nobody & yes it was marked OT but I couldn't resist looking just to see if anyone was stupid enough to drag up old political news on a "football forum" with so much happening on the "football" front ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientpie View Post
    I know there's not much happening on the football front (accept for the most interesting pre season for years & England in the quarters) so let's start yet another pro/anti Brexit thread & see who has changed their opinion since the last one, my money is on nobody & yes it was marked OT but I couldn't resist looking just to see if anyone was stupid enough to drag up old political news on a "football forum" with so much happening on the "football" front ?
    Thanks for joining in on this politics thread, Ancient!
    It's a down day for the World Cup, and the weekend is billed as the decisive time for the Govt to finally decide it's direction.
    And as I said in the OP, no need to get into it with the 'should happens' just predictions only for those curious about what will go down
    (Mrs. May maybe....on Gove, to win his support)

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    Quote Originally Posted by countygump View Post
    Since the thread started, it does look like there's a strong chance of A - with the leaks coming out, Davis and Mogg already moaning.
    Whatever you think about Brexit, you've got to want to move on to the next stage with May finally coming off the fence. She's strung it out far too long already. Knowing her though, she's probably got more fudge in the oven.

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    Tune in to question time now.

    Typical BBC loaded programme, re. the EU

    3 remoaners to 2 leavers, on the panel. (including the dead wood SNP, who don't care except for independence)

    Kings lynn voted 2:1 to leave.
    Yet the audience is pro remain slaughtering the government and booing anything about leaving.

    Absolute stitch up and spoiling a fair debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Kings lynn voted 2:1 to leave.
    Yet the audience is pro remain slaughtering the government and booing anything about leaving.
    Good to see that the people of Kings Lynn have seen the light.

    I turned off after Carolyn Radford appeared.

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    She has plenty of fudge packers in thereto help her anyway........fudge away my love......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Tune in to question time now.
    Typical BBC loaded programme, re. the EU

    3 remoaners to 2 leavers, on the panel. (including the dead wood SNP, who don't care except for independence)

    Kings lynn voted 2:1 to leave.
    Yet the audience is pro remain slaughtering the government and booing anything about leaving.

    Absolute stitch up and spoiling a fair debate.
    Obviously unlike your biased option on the subject..
    I thought the debate was an eye opener.
    It was nice to see the Tory panelist refusing to admit she's not stitching up our Maggie / May.....,!!
    The Tories are stitching this country up to retain power....yes that is looking out for the will of the people....xx

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    Usual BBC "unbiased" Question Time audience .

    I think they advertise for " volunteers" in the Guardian , in between the special offers for an inflatable Owen Jones , and the latest edition of The Polly Toynbee " One thousand non- gender specific after dinner anecdotes"

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    Sounds like May wants to take them on!

    According to Jack Blanchard’s London Playbook briefing, Number 10 sources have been briefing aggressively that Theresa May would be happy to see Brexiters resign if they cannot accept her proposals. He writes:

    Speaking in bellicose terms, the Downing Street figure said a “full reshuffle plan” is already in place. “Collective responsibility will be asserted at the end of the day,” the source said. “A select number of ego-driven, leadership-dominated cabinet ministers need to support the PM in the best interests of the U.K. — or their spots will be taken by a talented new generation of MPs who will sweep them away.”


    Chances of resignations going up. Seems like Johnson and Cameron met last night, hatching a plan. Not a surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedroTheFisherman66 View Post
    She has plenty of fudge packers in thereto help her anyway........fudge away my love......
    So not enough fudge was packed to hold it all together. Davis gone.
    Gove can't follow now after what he's said. But Fox and others might. Chances of a leadership challenge are edging up steadily. If they get the 48 they need, they'll remember how May lost their majority, a compromise candidate will throw their hat in the ring and she could well be gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    So not enough fudge was packed to hold it all together. Davis gone.
    Gove can't follow now after what he's said. But Fox and others might. Chances of a leadership challenge are edging up steadily. If they get the 48 they need, they'll remember how May lost their majority, a compromise candidate will throw their hat in the ring and she could well be gone.
    They are all at fault..
    The Hard liners should have come forward after the disaster that was the election.
    They should have had one of their own negotiating with the EU so they could lay down from day one what the UK wanted and was expecting....but they backed an ailing leader so they could retain power instead of risk loosing another election.
    Then the negotiating could have begun..
    instead the Tories were just interested in appeasing the Nation to remain in power ,
    obviously incorporating a 1 billion pound deal with the DUP to help them retain power !
    The result ,
    no direction no leadership , 1 billion scrumped from our Magic Money Tree,that we did not have for the nurses....( it must have been a fast growing Tree!!)
    May has lied to the nation and her party about what she was going to do ..all along she wanted the soft Brexit..so why did Brexit mean Brexit and not soft Brexit.....??
    because .. saying it out loud would have cost her and the party Power !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedroTheFisherman66 View Post
    They are all at fault..
    The Hard liners should have come forward after the disaster that was the election.
    They should have had one of their own negotiating with the EU so they could lay down from day one what the UK wanted and was expecting....but they backed an ailing leader so they could retain power instead of risk loosing another election.
    Then the negotiating could have begun..
    instead the Tories were just interested in appeasing the Nation to remain in power ,
    obviously incorporating a 1 billion pound deal with the DUP to help them retain power !
    The result ,
    no direction no leadership , 1 billion scrumped from our Magic Money Tree,that we did not have for the nurses....( it must have been a fast growing Tree!!)
    May has lied to the nation and her party about what she was going to do ..all along she wanted the soft Brexit..so why did Brexit mean Brexit and not soft Brexit.....??
    because .. saying it out loud would have cost her and the party Power !!!
    Just about sums it up!
    You think back to Johnson going AWOL right after the referendum (just like he ran off to Kabul the other week to avoid a vote).
    And then blubbing and standing down when Gove stood against him, letting May in.
    They've never had a plan and never had the balls.
    What happens from here is anyone's guess, but fanatics like Rees-Mogg won't let it go without having a go at taking over the party

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    Just about sums it up!
    You think back to Johnson going AWOL right after the referendum (just like he ran off to Kabul the other week to avoid a vote).
    And then blubbing and standing down when Gove stood against him, letting May in.
    They've never had a plan and never had the balls.
    What happens from here is anyone's guess, but fanatics like Rees-Mogg won't let it go without having a go at taking over the party
    So David Davis has gone, clearly a principled man but never struck me as particularly talented. My abiding memory of him will be the first day of Brexit negotiations when Barnier brought his files of papers and Davis just turned up for a cup of tea and a chat.

    Now is the perfect chance for someone like Gove, Johnson or Rees-Mogg to step up and proudly lead the party and the country to a hard Brexit and become a national hero when we reap the 'Brexit dividend'.

    Or alternatively continue to snipe from the sidelines and wait until it's all finished then say they would've done it better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    So David Davis has gone, clearly a principled man but never struck me as particularly talented. My abiding memory of him will be the first day of Brexit negotiations when Barnier brought his files of papers and Davis just turned up for a cup of tea and a chat.

    Now is the perfect chance for someone like Gove, Johnson or Rees-Mogg to step up and proudly lead the party and the country to a hard Brexit and become a national hero when we reap the 'Brexit dividend'.

    Or alternatively continue to snipe from the sidelines and wait until it's all finished then say they would've done it better.
    Your last sentence sounds about right.

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    Never mind Mrs May's Fudge Shoppe, what about Jolly Jeremy's Joke Shop? Here is a moment at which the Tories are wide open and ready for a decisive counter, where the country is ready for firm leadership, and not a word from Labour.
    Last Wednesday when McVey was similarly vulnerable and should have been taken to the cleaners, what did Jezzer choose as the theme for PM's Question Time? The bloody buses.
    What about asking Gareth Southgate to form a cabinet?

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