Originally Posted by
jackal2
I was on holiday in Tenerife a couple of weeks ago and saw the same thing outside a British pub there. Same formula, large groups of often fat, loutish men (and women) "getting pi**ed" and "'avin a laugh", before it all descends into glasses smashing and violence. Occasionally, one of them remembered to look at the TV screen where England were playing Tunisia, but most of the time they were too busy entertaining each other.
Let's be clear. These people are not working class and they aren't football fans. They're an alcohol-ridden underclass who use football as a convenient excuse to do what they want to do anyway, and probably all they are capable of doing. If a football game isn't the excuse, it could be "cuz we're on 'oliday, innit?" or "cuz it's Friday" or whatever other lame justification they apparently need to justify their behaviour.
It's bad enough watching it in your own country, but when you see it happening in someone else's country, and you see the locals look on and just give a shrug as if that's what they've come to associate with the English abroad, it's profoundly embarrassing.
The situation can be reversed, but it needs a legal system which puts the fear of God into these individuals. They're so brainless that only the most severe methods of dealing with them will get through.