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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpe_diem View Post
    And the saddest part of it all is that they could have achieved so much more with a bit more vision, patience and work. I have no doubt that we could have spent a modest amount this season and got promoted. As it is, they've both chucked their toys out of the pram and jeopardised not just the future of the best manager we've had in a long time, but the future of the club itself.
    Spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayBlade View Post
    We need to be careful what we say or how we word things, and I know it’s easy to be wise after the event, but my gut feeling for years has been that things aren’t right behind the scenes and that feeling certainly increasesed over the last season. The signs were there if we think back. It’s a bit like the comedians’ running our country and their abject opposition party. They tell us what they want us to hear when it suits them and kick the bad news down the road. Just like our politicians, it’s more about the individuals and their egos than the whole. It’s a bloody mess that needn’t have happened.
    The court documents state the problems arose over Van Winkels appointment, as I and others said at the time. Nothing good was ever going to come out of that.

    I would like to see how anyone suggesting McCabe should have seen this coming when the deal was signed arrive at that view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holden_C View Post
    The court documents state the problems arose over Van Winkels appointment, as I and others said at the time. Nothing good was ever going to come out of that.

    I would like to see how anyone suggesting McCabe should have seen this coming when the deal was signed arrive at that view.
    Is it not reasonable to assume that a contractual stipulation that the appointment of any key staff would have to be ratified by both parties should have been in place? If KMc (and Wilder) were unhappy about Van Winkel's appointment, KMc could then just have vetoed it (and vice versa, if McC tried to bring in anyone the Prince was unhappy with).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holden_C View Post
    The court documents state the problems arose over Van Winkels appointment, as I and others said at the time. Nothing good was ever going to come out of that.

    I would like to see how anyone suggesting McCabe should have seen this coming when the deal was signed arrive at that view.
    Can’t disagree with that and also what Bully says H. My point was based upon a personal feeling that things were not as they should be behind the scenes, nothing more. The odd comment from Wilder, last summer’s and the January window, even McCabe’s own persona and the odd throwaway comments that we all hear now and again. It’s hard to quantify mate, like you say Van Winkle coming onboard was probably the or one of the catalysts to the current situation, but between HRH, Jim Phipps, Baki and the rest, I’ve just didn’t think they were convincing once the dust had settled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpe_diem View Post
    Do you think he has legal counsel advising him here? Because I'd be surprised if any lawyer worth his salt was telling him that being so open when the matter is ongoing is anything but a dangerous idea. But equally he obviously has a lawyer present at the meetings. It's very odd.
    Without a doubt. His comments in the SA's would have been approved by his legal team and will no doubt be revisited during the main case. In more detail I'd expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holden_C View Post
    Without a doubt. His comments in the SA's would have been approved by his legal team and will no doubt be revisited during the main case. In more detail I'd expect.
    I'm surprised that his counsel are advising him to release statements that are potentially damaging to the club. There again, there's a lot about law that continues to surprise me.

    Has anyone asked McNulty for his opinions? A man of his experience and knowledge must have lots to tell us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpe_diem View Post
    I'm surprised that his counsel are advising him to release statements that are potentially damaging to the club. There again, there's a lot about law that continues to surprise me.

    Has anyone asked McNulty for his opinions? A man of his experience and knowledge must have lots to tell us.
    He's studying social media pics of both parties as we speak and will no doubt deliver a comprehensive assessment of both kmac and HRH and probably will be able to tell us which way this case will go,he's bloody good you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulmer1889 View Post
    He's studying social media pics of both parties as we speak and will no doubt deliver a comprehensive assessment of both kmac and HRH and probably will be able to tell us which way this case will go,he's bloody good you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpe_diem View Post
    I'm surprised that his counsel are advising him to release statements that are potentially damaging to the club. There again, there's a lot about law that continues to surprise me.

    Has anyone asked McNulty for his opinions? A man of his experience and knowledge must have lots to tell us.
    Don't you worry about me. I'm just sat here watching and laughing.
    Last edited by mcnulty1; 18-07-2018 at 01:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcnulty1 View Post
    Don't you worry about me. I'm just sat here watching and laughing.
    Well, it's not like you've got anything else in your sad little Walter Mitty life to occupy your time, is it?

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