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Thread: OT: Trump's end may be in sight

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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    In normal times he'd be in big trouble, but we are not living in normal times. How abnormal exactly remains to be seen.
    This abnormal?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/f...flow-1.3543375

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    Yeah I read that the other day. I'm wary of using the f word, I think it's used too often and if everyone's a fascist, it ends up with nobody being a fascist. But I do occasionally wonder.

    There are a lot of things that I find troubling at the moment, the polarisation of opinions and information (both sides), the discrediting of important institutions (mainly one side), the prevalence of the idea that if things aren't working we should just throw all the cards up in the air and see how they fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    My oh my. What a load of tosh. Not only is it selective in its references, it is also blatantly based on lies! Babies in cages ordered by Trump.......how low can you go. Have you seen the state and things that the left are doing in the USA lately? Is that civilised? Does that exhibit a level of morality? Calling anything and everything that doesn't agree with their worldview Nazi and fascist. Are you not aware that Nazis were left wing, socialist liberals? Not only uncouth, but extremely uneducated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagpieTony View Post
    Are you not aware that Nazis were left wing, socialist liberals?.
    Really? Nooooooo, I thought the Nazis were fascists - left-wing liberals, thanks for putting me right.

    So please tell me 'the things the left are doing are doing lately' Is it them putting children in cages, not the Govt? And was it the left killing three people at the 'Unite the Right' rallyand calling them 'fine people'

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally

    Protesters were members of the far-right and included white supremacists, members of the alt-right, neo-Confederates, Klansmen, neo-Nazis, and various militias. Some of the marchers chanted racist and antisemitic slogans, carried semi-automatic rifles, swastikas, Nazi symbols (such as the Odal rune, Black Sun, Iron Cross, and the Valknut)


    Them socialists liberals, eh? What will they get up to next?

    Plank

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagpieTony View Post
    Are you not aware that Nazis were left wing, socialist liberals?
    No, no and definitely no.

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    No disrespect Tony but that is one of the most absurd things I've ever read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    No disrespect Tony but that is one of the most absurd things I've ever read.
    An absurd article deserves an absurd response. Incidentally, do you believe that the Nazis weren't left wing socialists?

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    ... Tony is right. Some of you need to check your history. Hitler was a left wing socialist thug; not 'establishment' at all. His view was for a united (under Germany, of course) Europe. The current EU crooks are doing it the long way; but look who's running it - Herr Merkel. They can't stand opposition to the 'ever closer' dream. Am surprised many have not referred to the Ted Heath et al con, summarised/explained by FCA 30/1048.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackHorse View Post
    ... Tony is right. Some of you need to check your history. Hitler was a left wing socialist thug; not 'establishment' at all. His view was for a united (under Germany, of course) Europe. The current EU crooks are doing it the long way; but look who's running it - Herr Merkel. They can't stand opposition to the 'ever closer' dream. Am surprised many have not referred to the Ted Heath et al con, summarised/explained by FCA 30/1048.
    You are a piece of work and probably the poster I most despise on this board. You are a mere capitalist lackey.
    Just because someone calls themselves a socialist doesn't mean that their actions and philosophy are socialist. Hitler was only anti-capitalist because he wanted to smash what he saw as the Jewish moneyed class.
    Furthermore the juxtaposition of Nationalist with Socialist is a moronic oxymoron because a true socialist is an internationalist.
    True socialists don't hunt in gangs and beat people up and nor do they desire one supreme leader. All things Hitler and his cronies set out to achieve.
    Btw, Merkel has more guts and honesty than any other European leader at the moment. Certainly more deserving of respect than your preferred candidate.
    I note your lack of comment on Trump, who you have defended strongly in the past. Even embarrassing you now, is he?

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    [QUOTE=sidders;38948229]You are a piece of work and probably the poster I most despise on this board. You are a mere capitalist lackey. Just because someone calls themselves a socialist doesn't mean that their actions and philosophy are socialist.


    "There is only one way in which the murderous death agonies of the old society and the bloody birth throes of the new society can be shortened, simplified and concentrated, and that way is revolutionary terror" ( Karl Marx)

    I think Karl might have just qualified as a Socialist

    Capitalist Lackey is definitely out of The Tariq Ali compendium of political insults though , oh for the days of my youth .

    Lets not insult each other Sid , we all deserve better

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