It's back, it won't go away.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

40,000 knife crimes a year in London.
Going on for 7.000 gun related incidents a year in London.
Going on for 100 murders a year in London.


But the Met finds the time to investigate whether saying Muslim women who walk around looking like letter boxes, look like letter boxes, is a criminal offence. We live in a lunatic asylum.

Indeed we do sinkov. Wiltshire Police have just spent £10 million on investigating a perfume bottle. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartandhp

[Balanbam00]

By the left thats some reading Sinkov ,for sure those that read and listen to the BBC ,The Guardian,meantion of some wheelchair, nurse etc are up there with the news !!!
Just yesterday I listened to several news outlets (one was from Turkey, I was trying to find the Beşiktaş v's Burnley game on TRT ) The importance was that Israel pounded Gaza in response to what they say were rocket attacks from Gaza. I never hear ....''after 200 rockets were fired from Gaza......
The Independent:.......(violence between the Palestinian militant group and Israel quickly intensified on Wednesday). Hamas fired dozens of rockets and mortar bombs on Sderot in southern Israel In one week 400 projectiles rockets or mortars were fired! and the same with other news outlets
BUT !!!
At least 29 children have been killed and 30 wounded in a Saudi-led coalition air strike in Yemen, the International Committee of the Red Cross says.
The children were travelling on a bus that was hit at a market in Dahyan, in the northern province of Saada.
An absence of response, or a deafening silence??

[Balanbam00]

Norder : from post 99 :
From me
You must realize theat the Palestinian cause is to liberate what was called Palestine.no debates ,no agreements,simply''to destroy Israel totally''. No talk of sharing nothing,so you support the Palestinian cause?
Norder
.....can you prove your words - Balam - because I think that what your saying is simply not true - go back to the early years, and perhaps, yes, they wanted the return of all Palestine - but not today....if there was an agreement under international law, Palestine and Israel - two sates....they'd snap it up - only stumbling block are the Exremists of either side...that are out to scupper it !!!....and hasn't even Hamas agreed to it

After a new charter was scheduled to be issued in May 2017, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office issued a statement in which it accused Hamas of trying to fool the world and also asked it to stop its terror activities for a true change.[16]

The 2017 charter accepted for the first time the idea of a Palestinian state within the borders that existed before 1967 and rejects recognition of Israel which it terms as the "Zionist enemy". It advocates such a state as transitional but also advocates "liberation of all of Palestine". The new document also states that the group doesn't seek war with the Jewish people but only against Zionism which it holds responsible for "occupation of Palestine". Mashal also stated that Hamas was ending its association with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Hamas, the murderous neighbor that demands Israel give it the gun
Lift the blockade, Hamas urges, so that we can wipe you out

A Document of General Principles and Policies
01 May, 17

1. The Islamic Resistance Movement “Hamas” is a Palestinian Islamic national liberation and resistance movement. Its goal is to liberate Palestine and confront the Zionist project. Its frame of reference is Islam, which determines its principles, objectives and means

2. Palestine, which extends from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras Al-Naqurah in the north to Umm Al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit. It is the land and the home of the Palestinian people. The expulsion and banishment of the Palestinian people from their land and the establishment of the Zionist entity therein do not annul the right of the Palestinian people to their entire land and do not entrench any rights therein for the usurping Zionist entity.

20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea.

[sinkov]

Corbyn says he wasn't involved in laying the wreath for the terrorist scum who murdered the Israeli athletes, despite the photograph which shows him holding the wreath. Labour's version of Comical Ali, who denied on camera the Allies were advancing on Baghdad, while American tanks were visible in the distance.

But to be fair to the ****, celebrating terrorists who tortured and murdered Jews isn't really anti-semitic. It just looks like it.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Johnson and Corbyn, what a fcuking double act...

[oldcolner]

Corbyn says he wasn't involved in laying the wreath

No Sinkov he actually said “He didn’t think he was involved” which isn’t the same ... is it sign of Alzheimer’s maybe or selective memory? No doubt it will be fake news soon. I doubt he will recover from this as he must have had common sense failure. Ok so I’m in trouble for being anti-Semitic, so I must go and try to speak to my Palestinian friends immediately.

BT what Johnson said in his article was perfectly sensible if you read it, it’s just a few moaners with no sense or humour or free speech, who gave Tory Johnson haters and Theresa the chance to try to unseat him. They may find it bounces back on them as even many Muslims don’t support the niqab as it’s originally a sign of female oppression.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Corbyn says he wasn't involved in laying the wreath

No Sinkov he actually said “He didn’t think he was involved” which isn’t the same ... is it sign of Alzheimer’s maybe or selective memory? No doubt it will be fake news soon. I doubt he will recover from this as he must have had common sense failure. Ok so I’m in trouble for being anti-Semitic, so I must go and try to speak to my Palestinian friends immediately.

BT what Johnson said in his article was perfectly sensible if you read it, it’s just a few moaners with no sense or humour or free speech, who gave Tory Johnson haters and Theresa the chance to try to unseat him. They may find it bounces back on them as even many Muslims don’t support the niqab as it’s originally a sign of female oppression.

I'm not even bothered to debate these issues anymore OC. The niqab is an abomination and should not be tolerated. Johnson is just a toffee nosed snob who seeks attention and gets it by issuing drivel. Piccaninnies, letter boxes and bank robbers are surely not the rhetoric of a former British Foreign Secretary?

As for Corbyn, Palestine seems to remain on his priority list. The right wing press will continue to dig up old photos and quotes proving he is anti-Semitic and Corbyn will continue to accuse Netanyahu of genocide, perpetuating a never ending circle of nonsense.

The only way Corbyn can influence the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is to get the Labour Party elected. There is more chance of me and the wife catching a train out of Bolton on time than there is of Corbyn getting into number 10. I really see no point whatsoever in campaigning and door knocking on behalf of the Labour Party, when it is clearly intent on internal combustion.

Corbyn means well I am sure, but he is at least one custard short of a picnic when it comes to vote catching and winning a General Election against what must be the most inept Prime Minister in my lifetime?

[Supersub6]

I was shocked to read your post BT. I thought that when Corbyn was made leader of the Labour Party he was prophesied to be the Messiah who would lead the Labour Party to greater things ---are you becoming disillusioned with the Peoples' Leader?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I am more than disillusioned Supersub6. Politics is like football, there really is no place for losers.

The only way the socialists in this country can effect change is to have political power. Moderate, sensible, economic and political solutions and proposals are the way forward. A political party that is ripping itself apart with internal division is hardly likely to converge on Downing Street, but Corbyn seems unable to see the bleeding obvious!

[Supersub6]

Unfortunately, BT, almost all politicians have the blinkers on these days and they can't, or won't, see the obvious because they are concentrating too much on furthering their own ends. This is never going to be a way forward and, even if it was, it would still need good leadership, whichever party is in power. We have not had any proper leadership in this country for many, many years and I don't see any prospective leaders coming up on the rails. Very sad really.