Please please please sack him now....

[An old shed boy]

Just from memory here but many years ago did the league cup in groups not start the season.
Might be bollox.
Maybe some of the older guys can help.

[LSArab]

I think there is a saying in business that the best loss is the early loss

Despite being so bad last season Mike Martin tried to give casaba a further chance. Unfortunately it is blindingly obvious things are only getting worse and it is the same Csaba as last season

It is desperate

We really need a new manager to have any hope of salvaging this season

[LSArab]

Just from memory here but many years ago did the league cup in groups not start the season.
Might be bollox.
Maybe some of the older guys can help.

Yes in the Jerry Kerr days still I think there were league cup groups at start

[stokearab]

Just from memory here but many years ago did the league cup in groups not start the season.
Might be bollox.
Maybe some of the older guys can help.

Definitely did. Can't remember when it stopped though.

[Chick A Saw]

The five that roll of the tongue that are realistic that I said in the other thread

Wright
Neilson
Hopkins
McCall
Houston

Wright i dont want,
Neilson i really dont see why some want him here as he did well under Levein, but failed doon sooth.
Hopkins im not sure about,
McCall might be ok,
Houston downward spiral so would fit in well!

I would probably get shot down suggesting Allan Johnston, but i really cant think of anyone who would come here!

[stokearab]

Yes in the Jerry Kerr days still I think there were league cup groups at start

IIRC it wasn't seeded then so the group stage could throw up some cracking games

[An old shed boy]

That’s a relief that I’m not losing the plot yet.
I don’t think we played these games as friendlies or pre- season did we?
Were United Aberdeen Rangers and Celtic not always the seeded teams.

[stokearab]

Wright i dont want,
Neilson i really dont see why some want him here as he did well under Levein, but failed doon sooth.
Hopkins im not sure about,
McCall might be ok,
Houston downward spiral so would fit in well!

I would probably get shot down suggesting Allan Johnston, but i really cant think of anyone who would come here!

What has been proved beyond doubt in the last 3 years is that there is no one candidate that all the fans would unanimously agree on.
For example McCall unpopular due to being "ex Sevco" (I think he'd be great actually) Houston toys and prams, Neilson didn't cut it down south, Hopkin plays anti football and so it goes on etc etc
But somewhere there's a manager who would come and would motivate the players and blend them into a cohesive system.
As someone said and I agree with it this is not down to the players this is down to Csaba being unable to lead, motivate, set up and drive passion and a simple will to win. A decent manager would get more out of these players almost immediately (as Shedka said) but you sense that MM is going to stick with him.

[TerryTheTerror]

That’s a relief that I’m not losing the plot yet.
I don’t think we played these games as friendlies or pre- season did we?
Were United Aberdeen Rangers and Celtic not always the seeded teams.

I'll bet they never started before the World Cup finished though.

[An old shed boy]

What has been proved beyond doubt in the last 3 years is that there is no one candidate that all the fans would unanimously agree on.
For example McCall unpopular due to being "ex Sevco" (I think he'd be great actually) Houston toys and prams, Neilson didn't cut it down south, Hopkin plays anti football and so it goes on etc etc
But somewhere there's a manager who would come and would motivate the players and blend them into a cohesive system.
As someone said and I agree with it this is not down to the players this is down to Csaba being unable to lead, motivate, set up and drive passion and a simple will to win. A decent manager would get more out of these players almost immediately (as Shedka said) but you sense that MM is going to stick with him.

Great post Stoke.
Well summed up.