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Thread: O/T The fog of politics

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    O/T The fog of politics

    For the last thirty years or so our politicians and governments of both parties have been quick to blame the EU or bureaucrats in Brussels for their own incompitances and cock ups Over the years I have heard hundreds of interviews start with " Well we had to do whatever the latest cock up was because of the EU" In a large percentage of cases that was simply not true. The cock up was made in Downing street. This process was often started or supported by the three Tory rags, the Telegraph, the Mail or the Sun. Obviously the EU, which we are part of has also made mistakes. Thats politics which is always subject to propaganda.
    Over the years we have been poor members of the EU because for most of the time the Tories have been in government, a government thats been at war with itself over membership. Consequently our contribution and active involvement in the management of the EU has been poor. This is despite the fact we have, as a result of various opt outs, opt ins, rebates and special deals thanks to Thatcher and Major we have the best agreement of any country in the EU.
    We are on the brink of throwing all that away to pursue the fantasies of free trade deals non of which have so far come to fruition propagated by such swivel eyed Tories such as Fox the so called Business Secretary and David Davis the useless negotiator. We already belong to the worlds biggest and best free market, its time to drop the Brexit nonsense and put our efforts into improving the EU not leaving it.

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    Why didn't you just add that to the current thread instead of creating a new one ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    Why didn't you just add that to the current thread instead of creating a new one ?
    cos he loves to jump on the project fear bandwagon

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    Just his opinion ? Think he's a Wendy part Red ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    Why didn't you just add that to the current thread instead of creating a new one ?
    There was a fog over the keyboard......

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    Quote Originally Posted by yorkshireborn View Post
    cos he loves to jump on the project fear bandwagon
    Its not fear its cold logic. If Trump Putin and 46 Tory extremists are for Brexit common sense says it is not a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KINDERSCOUT View Post
    Its not fear its cold logic. If Trump Putin and 46 Tory extremists are for Brexit common sense says it is not a good idea.
    its fear cos you have not got a clue as to what will happen unless you been to see gypsy Petulengro in blacky.

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    So many businesses & commentators say that we are heading over a cliff like lemmings - when it all hits the fan & prices rocket, when the NHS implodes, when we run out of lifesaving drugs, I will not say “Project Fear”, I’ll say “told you so”! Brexit was & is madness

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    [QUOTE=anstonred;38962480]So many businesses & commentators say that we are heading over a cliff like lemmings - when it all hits the fan & prices rocket, when the NHS implodes, when we run out of lifesaving drugs, I will not say “Project Fear”, I’ll say “told you so”! Brexit was & is madness[/QUOTE

    But you will never beat,e to prove it’s because of Brexit as you will never know what the alternative future would have been.

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    It's amazing how so little of tomorrow can make up for a whole lot of yesterday .

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