O/T The revolution had already happened ( part 2)

[rolymiller]

Its all there owd lad have a look on the jacob rees mogg thread 6/ 2/18.

Come on cough up, its a good cause. Just leave a little note with your donation saying its a little debt you owe to rolymiller for falsely saying he was telling porkys There's one or two know me there so I will know if you haven't been. Plus you must have made a few quid on the stock exchange. You can afford it.

Us socialists may be scruffy working class barstewards but we are quite forgiving we don't all go round eating babies and kicking granny's walking sticks away yer know.

[Silly-miller]

To go back to the opening post on the closed thread, I think that SillyMilller and myself could improve the original script to help IBS out.

Episode One - traditional tea time
I like SillyMiller's idea of two old fogies pointlessly arguing over a broken teapot. (Do I detect the influence of Samuel Beckett there?) It's very much in the spirit of IBS's posts and would be a good way of introducing the main characters

Silly says: what’s quantum leap got to do with that story lol. Also don’t forget the pointless search for a new teapot

Episode Two - Vicar's jumble sale

IBS and Mrs IBS (Kempo in a pantomime wig) are sorting out items for the vicarage jumble sale. These include some discarded glove puppets and a pair of USA-style snakeskin boots (never worn) made from their deceased pet MontyPython, who volunteered to have himself put down after turning rabid and attacking their neighbours (Possible role for Angus Deayton there as the long-suffering next door neighbour). When Mrs IBS turns on the tv to watch the Tellytubbies , IBS starts frothing at the mouth and accuses them of being communists. Then the vicar knocks at the door. IBS answers the door and his trousers fall down.

Episode 3: new neighbors

A new neighbor moves in next door and mr and Mrs IBS being traditional folk go over to greet the new neighbors by bringing them a traditional meat and potato pie only when the neighbors open the door , ibs couple notice that his neighbors are not only a black French man but a Muslim woman too (mr ibs is so shocked that when they open the door mr IBS drops the pie all over the bottom of his trousers and shoes. Everywhere mr ibs goes the ( pub, market and church) mr ibs sees his new neighbors everywhere and is outraged so much he constantly sends in letters to his MP.

[KerrAvon]

You must have missed those few posts where he actually joins in the debates he instigates and he gets proper wound up himself at arguments contrary to his own. My coinage of the term 'waaahh' was specifically aimed at IBS's lapses into frustrated bleatings when, obviously after 1 too many sherries he'd let his guard down. Same with Monty and other few drones of the 6th form humour club (with which you obviously and sadly identify), like to profess intelligences and wind ups, but laughably easy to reverse the tables on them. Hence Monty storming off into his foul mouthed sunset... Divas one and all, sadly backed by the thick and bigoted ��

I can’t say that I have ever looked that closely, but can’t recall an instance of IBS getting ‘proper wound up himself at arguments contrary to his own’. Do you have an example?

I’m grateful for your explanation for the ‘waahh’ thing. I recall seeing something along those lines and, truth be told, I thought you were just making a bit of a berk of yourself for reasons that I didn’t really understand.

As I mentioned to Mike, it’s largely irrelevant what IBS’s politics are now given that somebody (presumably from the Left) has gone ‘waahh’ to the mods and got their way.

You need to check out the meaning of the word ‘bigot’ . It means a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions. It’s slightly ironic that you use it when you and others are actively celebrating the silencing of a poster for the crime of posting things that you didn’t agree with.

On the subject of going ‘waahh’ I see that Margaret Hodge has upset The Great Leader by calling him out on antisemitism. As an insider, I was wondering if you can shed any light upon whether the disciplinary proceedings against him will take as long as those against Ken Livingstone for allegedly making antisemitic comments or whether there is a fast track procedure for Blairites like Hodge to be found guilty and disciplined?

[KerrAvon]

Heard a whisper CAM is looking to shut Poland Mad down

He’ll have to hurry. I understand that the ‘Left wingers’ on here are planning to take it over. They plan to send the existing mods for political re-education, have an electronic bonfire of posts they don't agree with and purge the site of of counterrevolutionary posters and dangerous intellectuals.

[KerrAvon]

No not right wing Kerr. This is the guy in his Monty guise who threatened violence to me and mikemiller for challenging him on his right wing views. He also, in his IBS guise, said something on the lines that my great uncle who died in the first world war was i seem to remember " a working class bas tard" something he never apologised for saying. But hey Kerr, he's only a WUM eh? And not at all right wing. He can carry on offending folks...its only a bit of a laugh. Its his right you know...freedom of speech and all that.

You should ask yourself if it is sensible to assume that anyone who disagrees with you is a multi. Monty was fairly open about his identity and IBS posted something (in 2014, Mike) that left me 99% certain of his identity. They aren’t the same person.

How is referring to people as ‘working class bas tards’ evidence of right wing tendencies? Do you think the 'working class' don’t have right wingers amongst their number? Take a look at one of the many images of EDL rallies on the internet and see if you can spot the toffs and then think about the wards where the BNP has enjoyed electoral success in the past. I would say that the far right draws far more of its support from the 'working class' than any other 'class'.

[rolymiller]

IBS:Roly, why do you keep sucking up to scruffy working class b@stards?

There's one for you Kerr. Sounds pretty wound up to me! If he wasn;t I wouldn't like to meet him when he was.

..purge the site of of counterrevolutionary posters and dangerous intellectuals....don't worry you will be safe then on the last bit....

[KerrAvon]

It was on the Jacob Rees Mogg thread:

Me:So they bloody should it wasn't the working man's warwas it Mr Kerr. Read yer history. Even o level students in the 70s knew thatit was to do with colonialism and powerful alliances.Tut tut and I thought you were educated.

My great uncle got blown up in the trenches in the first world war and for what? My grandad was also gassed which he never recovered from.I never knew him because he died before I was born,My family gained feck all from the first world war as ordinary folk.

If the rich and powerful want to start wars they can bloody fight em. The first World war was not my grandads or greatr uncles fight but they were conned into believing it was.

IBS:Roly, why do you keep sucking up to scruffy working class b@stards?



Me:I hope you are not referring to my great uncle and grandad with that comment IBS otherwise you can publicly apologise. It just isn't funny is it?

IBS does not clear this point up by saying I wasn't referring directly to your relatives but intsead side steps the issue by talking about brave soldiers as a means to cover his error up.

I am not reposting this to gain an apology or clarification from IBS. that point has long since past, and maybe he would argue he wasn't referring directly to my relatives but it does serve to illustrate the fact that IBS is not purely a WUM as Kerr says: he has a right wing agenda when he posts which often oversteps the mark.

Aaah – the Rees Mogg thread:

http://boards.footymad.net/showthrea...8212937&page=6

I like your carefully selected and edited extract of the exchange. You will recall that it started with animal posting the tired old slur about the level of risk faced by officers in WW1 and you picking it up and running with it. I then politely pointed out the lie causing you to blow a gasket in which you told me I was talking bollax and expressed a – putting it politely - rather callous disregard for the lives of officers.

I wouldn’t have said what IBS did, but think it no more disgraceful and disrespectful than your comment.

You really need to take a step back and look at how this thread has gone (although I'm sure that you won't). It is clear that you and others are fixated on what you believe to be right wing views held by IBS and that someone has seen that as a justification for him being silenced and has apparently complained in order to secure that outcome. Is that healthy, do you think? Why is the Left so intolerant?

[KerrAvon]

I suspect IBS baits his hook for the lefties for two obvious reasons, they are plentiful in supply and they are easy to hook!

Raging Pup, MMM and the fella who lives on a Chinese island are too easy prey

Sadly true. But they are very selective about the bait they will take. I pointed out some past postings by animal concerning Muslims that would have driven them to apoplexy had gf or IBS made them. The collective response of our moral guardians was to look at their shoes or fingernails or anything but their screens. I'm guessing it is because animal knows all the words to the ‘Oh Jeremy Corbyn’ chant and can even hold the tune.

[Silly-miller]

Is it just me or are we always labling people’s opinions as left wing or right wing? Also why do they call them wings if nothings seems to be in the middle?

[rolymiller]

I never complained about him Kerr. I have never complained about anybody for the record. The point is if he puts right wing crap on he will be challenged just as you are. You can argue all you like about his right to do it but that also applies to people who challenge him. What happens then is that we get long drawn out arguments that just go round in circles you being one of the chief culprits for recycling arguments.Thats fine if you want a football message board to have constant political arguments that go round in circles. Camillers idea of nipping such things in the bud will help stop this. I'm not against political discussion if it is topical and relevant but IBS just plucks scenarios out of the air to try to wind folks up. How you think he is funny is beyond me unless you have some warped sense of humour like him. I have not asked him to be banned but if he was I would not shed any tears and millers mad would be a lot happier place.