September 11th 2001 Recollections

[BogBrush1903]

Presumably this thread has been done before; however, what's your recollections of September 11th 2001 in relation to discovering the attacks in NYC, Washington D.C and Shanksville...

I'm a bit obsessive in reading and watching stuff about it so this might be ignored but it is approaching the 17th year anniversary so it's relevant...

[Pacman1903]

I was an apprentice in a car pull for my block release. Still lived with my folks in Ellon. Had just been dropped off in Modley and was crossing the bridge into Meiklemill and bumped into a dude i went to school with. He was a proper stoner type and said something along thie lines of "whoah man, f@cking hell man, you seen New York man, its like a f@cking movie man". Didnt know whay to expect. Walked into my hoos and my ma was watching it. Then i was like my stoner chum "f@cking hell man".

Then i thought "woah woah woah 4 planes were highjacked on the same day, aye f@cking right. Shenanigans" and i still think that to this day.

SHENANIGANS i tells ya

Also that was half my life ago. F@cking hell

[Jupiter]

I saw it on a TV in a shop window on Union Street.

[mondo_notion]

Bogbrush, were you reading about the tube station finally getting re-opened after being buried after the towers collapsed? When you mentioned it was coming up to 17 years I knew I had read that somewhere today.

I was just finishing my worst job ever (as part of the maintenance squad at arthur simmers piggery) I remember pulling out on to the main road to head home and Chris Moyles was on his afternoon show on Radio 1 and that was the first I heard about it.

[Pacman1903]

Bogbrush, were you reading about the tube station finally getting re-opened after being buried after the towers collapsed? When you mentioned it was coming up to 17 years I knew I had read that somewhere today.

I was just finishing my worst job ever (as part of the maintenance squad at arthur simmers piggery) I remember pulling out on to the main road to head home and Chris Moyles was on his afternoon show on Radio 1 and that was the first I heard about it.

Listening to Chris Moyles must have been worse than working at a piggery?

[mondo_notion]

Listening to Chris Moyles must have been worse than working at a piggery?

There were a lot of people worse off than me at that particular time to be fair

[BogBrush1903]

Bogbrush, were you reading about the tube station finally getting re-opened after being buried after the towers collapsed? When you mentioned it was coming up to 17 years I knew I had read that somewhere today.

I was just finishing my worst job ever (as part of the maintenance squad at arthur simmers piggery) I remember pulling out on to the main road to head home and Chris Moyles was on his afternoon show on Radio 1 and that was the first I heard about it.

The reopening of Cortlandt Street subway was exactly what triggered my thoughts back to September 11th 2001. That might be a good example of how Google (I don't know if you use Google as your search engine Mondo) can condition our thoughts by pointing us all to the same articles, it's all very Orwellian.

And it was the influence of the online world that first conditioned me to think that the incidents that happened that day was an 'inside job'. However, I'm now being pushed towards considering it as an 'outside job'.

[StandfreeFM]

The reopening of Cortlandt Street subway was exactly what triggered my thoughts back to September 11th 2001. That might be a good example of how Google (I don't know if you use Google as your search engine Mondo) can condition our thoughts by pointing us all to the same articles, it's all very Orwellian.

And it was the influence of the online world that first conditioned me to think that the incidents that happened that day was an 'inside job'. However, I'm now being pushed towards considering it as an 'outside job'.

Good to know you are emerging from the other side of the conspiracy theory whirlpool. Not many manage it. Usually avoid social media around this time of year as it is the happiest time of the year for the tinfoil hatted Mossad/Soros/Rothschild* blamers as instead of dignified silence they flood facebook with the same drivel they do every year in the hope of snaring someone into an argument.

I learned about it in work, about 5 rooms away from where I am currently sat, which is pretty depressing when I think about it.

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[BogBrush1903]

Good to know you are emerging from the other side of the conspiracy theory whirlpool. Not many manage it. Usually avoid social media around this time of year as it is the happiest time of the year for the tinfoil hatted Mossad/Soros/Rothschild* blamers as instead of dignified silence they flood facebook with the same drivel they do every year in the hope of snaring someone into an argument.

I learned about it in work, about 5 rooms away from where I am currently sat, which is pretty depressing when I think about it.

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What depresses me is the amount of time I frittered away watching 9/11 conspiracy videos. However, there are questions that need to be asked but these videos don't assist...

There's no doubt in mind that planes were under the control of the 19 hijackers when they crashed but there are oddities that won't go away...A couple that come to mind are:

How did a Saudi passport survive the impact into the WTC and the destruction of towers that obliterated human bone and steel, to be found at the so-called Ground Zero?

Why did the commander-in-chief (or rather his security detail allow him ) remain in a school listening to children read a story after he heard about the second plane hitting the towers?

Why were American military defences so inept on the day? Incompetence perhaps but why hasn't a proper inquiry been held and those found guilty of incompetence punished?

These are just a couple of questions that spring to mind. I don't think there is anything wrong with querying the 9/11 Commission report. I mean this is a report that failed to mention the collapse of WTC7; therefore, it's fair to say, there needs to be constructive criticism and those in power need to be held to account...

[StandfreeFM]

What depresses me is the amount of time I frittered away watching 9/11 conspiracy videos. However, there are questions that need to be asked but these videos don't assist...

There's no doubt in mind that planes were under the control of the 19 hijackers when they crashed but there are oddities that won't go away...A couple that come to mind are:

How did a Saudi passport survive the impact into the WTC and the destruction of towers that obliterated human bone and steel, to be found at the so-called Ground Zero?

Why did the commander-in-chief (or rather his security detail allow him ) remain in a school listening to children read a story after he heard about the second plane hitting the towers?

Why were American military defences so inept on the day? Incompetence perhaps but why hasn't a proper inquiry been held and those found guilty of incompetence punished?

These are just a couple of questions that spring to mind. I don't think there is anything wrong with querying the 9/11 Commission report. I mean this is a report that failed to mention the collapse of WTC7; therefore, it's fair to say, there needs to be constructive criticism and those in power need to be held to account...

uuugh. I can feel myself getting suckered in.

Passport:- Not just the Satam al Suqami passport survived. Many other passports/id/bank cards were found amongst the debris. The first airliner's itinerary from Boston to LA was also found in the immediate aftermath. Yes, the odds of this are very slim, but unlikely events do happen. Low odds do not constitute evidence.

Bush:- Confusion in the aftermath of an unexpected terrorist attack. He probably didn't want to scare the kids he was reading to and the secret service probably though a school was a fairly safe place for him to be while they sorted out the security for him and his family. Also, he's nae that bright so probably didn't know what to do.

American response:-The terrorists exploited what we now realise were lax security standards.