Unpaid "Matchday Heroes" furore...

[Norder]

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If I lived closer to Turf Moor I may consider volunteering myself

Correct me if i'm wrong 59/60 - but I beleive that your in the Privileged position of being retired - possibly in a place where you no longer have need Work for money ?....so am Interested - would you feel the same way if, as has been said (sinkov) you were in a position where a wage was essential, to put food on the table, pay the bills etc....much being so for around 80% of Burnley residents I believe - and for many of those, some little extra would go a long way to help supplement their existing income - would you feel happy to deprive them of a few more, helpful - £s.
And...do you also think it right that a currently strong and Profitable Business, that pays many of it's individual employees in annual £Millions£....should devalue it's labour force and deprive the somewhat small local community that supports it , through good and bad - some small return, in a lighly paid role....?

Cheers.

[sinkov]

You beat me to it sinkov. You really are a socialist after all!

I worked nearly 30 years in the Fire Service BT, but not even one minute's paid overtime in that 30 years. The FBU had a ban on it because the employers would have used overtime to keep the establishment under-strength, and that meant we'd have been keeping someone else out of paid employment. We wouldn't work overtime to keep people on the dole, I wouldn't work for nothing for BFC to keep people on the dole. People doing other people out of work are nowt but scabs imo.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Bloody hell sinkov! A Trade Unionist too. Impressed beyond words. You are now off my "one to watch" list!

[ClaretinBudapest]

Good idea that CiB, I have copied your idea, the "volunteers" can also clean Terriers Taxis, we will need the fleet ready for the next transfer window!

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[The Bedlington Terrier]

That's me CiB!

[1959_60]

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Correct me if i'm wrong 59/60 - but I beleive that your in the Privileged position of being retired - possibly in a place where you no longer have need Work for money ?....so am Interested - would you feel the same way if, as has been said (sinkov) you were in a position where a wage was essential, to put food on the table, pay the bills etc....much being so for around 80% of Burnley residents I believe - and for many of those, some little extra would go a long way to help supplement their existing income - would you feel happy to deprive them of a few more, helpful - £s.
And...do you also think it right that a currently strong and Profitable Business, that pays many of it's individual employees in annual £Millions£....should devalue it's labour force and deprive the somewhat small local community that supports it , through good and bad - some small return, in a lighly paid role....?

Cheers.

Afternoon Norder!

Yes, I am retired. I get by on my pension...but extra money would be very helpful. I am considering taking a part time job at the moment.

Tell me, did you complain about the Olympic volunteers who certainly added to the occasion during the London Olympics? Or were you jumping up and down calling them "scabs"? (Sinkov)

Do you think there is no place for volunteers in corporate events such as sport, church, school governance, music, art etc etc?

I am a Lib Dem activist and I actually pay money to the party.
I am an elected councillor and I don't receive a penny for my work.
My wife is an unpaid school governor.
My wife also does unpaid work for the mega rich Catholic church.
So if you want to call us "scabs" then crack on.

Volunteering to be a greeter at Turf Moor will probably mean being on duty between 1.30 and 3PM for a Saturday match. After that they get to watch the match, get "refreshments" and merchandise.
Burnley do employ loads of match day staff as well you know.

Yes, I am a lifelong Burnley fan and I would certainly consider doing this now and again. The amount of cash that this would take away from the local economy is so small that it needn't even be considered.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

You are not getting this are you 1959_60?

Burnley Football Club are asking for "Matchday Heroes" to perform the EXACT same duties as paid for staff are currently doing.

This has nothing to do with philanthropy, hobbies or belonging to a political party or particular church. This is asking people to take over the duties of paid employees for zero remuneration.

You doff your cap and tug your forelocks all you like, but don't dare ask me to do people out of a paid job.

[1959_60]

You are not getting this are you 1959_60?

Burnley Football Club are asking for "Matchday Heroes" to perform the EXACT same duties as paid for staff are currently doing.

This has nothing to do with philanthropy, hobbies or belonging to a political party or particular church. This is asking people to take over the duties of paid employees for zero remuneration.

You doff your cap and tug your forelocks all you like, but don't dare ask me to do people out of a paid job.

BT, do you think that no volunteers at all should be used in any corporate event? Sporting, arts, political etc etc?

Did you complain about the London Olympic greeters?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

That's a ridiculous argument 1959_60. The Olympics are a national showcase with visitors arriving from all over the globe. The Olympics epitomise xenophobic pride, not trying to get important jobs done for nowt by a Corporate entity. Burnley Football Club are becoming so disconnected from their fan base, when the rooster comes home to nest it will be entirely their own fault!

[sinkov]

Bloody hell sinkov! A Trade Unionist too. Impressed beyond words. You are now off my "one to watch" list!

My role of honour.

TSSA
GMWU
ASTMS with Clive Jenkins
FBU

Always been a Union man BT, 7 weeks on the picket line, demos outside County Hall, some good times with the lads and lassies of the SWP as well. Always opted out of paying the political levy though, feck that for a game of soldiers.