Brexit - Leeds Transfer Policy Conundrum & .................

[WTF11]

proper charmer ... don’t mind properly made decisions but the whole misinformation and then lack of of planning and denial is what gets my goat - sounds like that’s how you like it tho so fair dos

Ok, here goes.....

Brexit - general

It has been misinformation since the get-go, on both sides of the argument and in equal measure. The original question on the ballot paper was essentially “do you wish to stay or leave the EU”. There was no “under these conditions” or “dependent upon the following arrangements/deals” just a straight binary answer to a very binary question.

Perhaps those who voted to remain should be asking why there was a ballot in the first place, if everything in the EU garden is/was so rosy? It shouldn’t matter, the referendum result should stand as the primary concern, and those who voted leave live with the consequences (if they have any integrity) and those who voted to remain have fairly stark choices…swallow whatever bitter pill they believe will result from whatever deal is hammered out, or leave for another country! Not ideal I’ll give you, but the only other course of action I can see is to have an interminable round of votes until one side either gives up, or the weight of numbers on one side or another reduces to the point where their views no longer have credence in suggesting that things should carry on. Really? Can we have a country that is constant conflict, or should we just wait to see what is agreed, and accept the consequences?

Worth asking, if there wasn’t 24/7 rolling news, opinionated broadcasters pontificating about what should or shouldn’t be, or what has or hasn’t been agreed, when they know jack sh1t, just what would we be talking about? It wouldn’t be Brexit, it would be what was on Corrie last night, or the match just gone, or coming up, or what is for tea, or who we’re going out with, what film we are looking forward to seeing. And that’s how it should be now, because whatever happens the ordinary person in the street can do absolutely f00k all about it.

On the point of democracy, it’s worth pointing out that the major issue that the present administration has is the avoidance of a hard border in Northern Ireland (as opposed to the other million things that will affect us all!). Not because many politicians actually care about Northern Ireland per se, but that the government is dependent upon 10 DUP MPs for its majority, hence a large part of the negotiating effort is deployed to assuage the demands of 10 MPs representing around 300k voters, as opposed to the other 30million voters who live elsewhere, so much for parliamentary democracy.

Brexit – Football

If FIFA, on the back of what is happening on the Brexit front, actually achieve their ambition as described in Mrs Os post, then for once, I will give them a big slap on the back. TV revenues will not be damaged by the limitations, the competitions (league, cup etc) that viewers pay good money for will remain, and the audiences will not diminish. There will however be huge benefits for football as a whole, and the lower divisions in all national leagues in particular, exactly as Mrs O points out (although I wouldn’t agree that British youth players having greater opportunities is tantamount to “suffering”).

Everyone, whether they be in positions of power or just the average fan at the turnstile, knows full well that the domination in 1st team squads of teams like Chelsea, Man City etc, by foreign players, is detrimental to the interests of a healthy football ecosystem, but at present there is little or no control of how much PL teams spend, nor how many foreign players they stuff into their squad (as a means of preventing them playing for others, or as true first team players). If Brexit acts as a catalyst for the introduction of real, hard, and adequately policed limits on loanees, foreign players etc in the squads of PL clubs, then I for one would suggest that is a very good thing indeed.

And if players (and their agents) see clubs in Spain and Italy as potentially more lucrative (for the player/agent), then let them go, the Pl and English leagues in general will remain the ones to watch (literally and figuratively speaking)

As for music acts, they are as much subject to market forces as anyone, so if a year without some is the effect of Brexit, again, maybe home grown talent will fill the gaps (and the “big names just might not get back in the door!)

Sorry for the length of the post by the way, most unusual for me!

[MrsORichSenior]

A very well voiced,written and balanced address you've stated there may I say.
Well WTF11 we now have an,err .............. Mmmmm,well a Document !

Brexit Politics ..........
A 'separation agreement' between the UK and the EU covering 585 pages - basically would you agree it appears there are three areas of concern.




1.Britain’s financial settlement with the EU to meet agreed discussed commitments.
2.The post Brexit rights of EU citizens in the UK and British citizens on the continent.
3.A mechanism to prevent a hard border on the island of Ireland.
This 'agreement' includes a much shorter (and non-binding) seven page political declaration outlining what the two sides see as their desired future trading relationship which still has to be err,negotiated at a later stage - Mmmm.

Any solution involves 'concessions' on both sides.

On one side the EU's chief negotiator (Michel Barnier)who has accepted the idea of a whole UK customs union with the EU, satisfying the UK’s demands that its territorial integrity must be preserved BUT ...........on the other side in return Britain must agree that it will not be allowed to exit the backstop unless and/or/until the EU agrees there is no prospect of a return to a hard border. Plus it will have to accept special 'deeper' customs arrangements for Northern Ireland and the EU’s so called 'level playing field' conditions for the whole of the UK.

From the Euro perspective its member states concerns that a customs union membership without the obligations of the single market could give the UK an unfair advantage - so they WILL require Britain to observe EU rules on state aid, competition, the environment, tax and labour market rules for starters .........

Here in France today (and Europe) the general consensus is basically the rest of Europe decrees the UK has a Muppet in charge presently whose failing her citizens wishes.

Reading all the European press and reading the main stay press of UK (Times,Telegraph) then reading specialist finance/trade journals of various countries I cannot differ that the UK is indeed in troubled waters with the current regime.Futher,most countries would be on the streets up in arms marching against Mays arguments of delivering priorities of the people and that her course is the right one.

The fatal flaws in this document would leave my families remaining business interests in the UK with no alternative.Sad as a business built from scratch,handed down and rebuilt to suit modern markets employing several folks aged under 30 and providing a space to encourage kids to utilise raw talent will be relocated to mainland Europe.

Brexit football ?
I'll sleep on that one for a while but there is a hell of a lot to go into that mix concerning UK football - Spurs didn't spend big for reasons and not just because of a fancy new stadium ...........................



MOT

[Billyni]

Thats all well and good, but how will it affect Leeds United in the Champions League 2020?

[Ozwhites]

Thats all well and good, but how will it affect Leeds United in the Champions League 2020?

[MrsORichSenior]

Thats all well and good, but how will it affect Leeds United in the Champions League 2020?

............. no problem as the Rad will relocate Leeds United to Belfast and failing that we could also join and challenge the elite of the NIPL .................. Bielsa can walk on water & I can kayak over to watch ........ sorted

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance...ion-4---clubs/