O/T Best of British Northern Soul

[BigLadonOS]

This is in my opinion the best of the best of Brit Northern Soul. What a STORMER of a record this is. Just ****ing brilliant. Close my eyes and back to being 14 years old and hearing this fantastic music for the first time. Great music lives on forever.

[CTMilller]

This is in my opinion the best of the best of Brit Northern Soul. What a STORMER of a record this is. Just ****ing brilliant. Close my eyes and back to being 14 years old and hearing this fantastic music for the first time. Great music lives on forever.

Very good that - but the intro and repeated refrain are identical to the instrumental bridge in Wilson Pickett's "In the Midnite Hour". Both released in 1966 and I suspect the Tomlin version is lifted from Pickett's hit - but I may be wrong...

Tried to google Lee Tomlin but he doesn't seem to exist. (It might be hard to find him anyway among all the references to Lee Tomlin, the footballer.)

[CTMilller]

I have just watched it on Youtube and have to say I enjoyed it. The music is great and most of the content about the scene is fairly accurate with the swimming after an allnighter and the part about no trouble with people whatever their colour race or creed, however, I can say that the dance scenes do not represent any Northern Soul dance floor I have ever been on. Also the part where the copper is being laughed at while practicing dance moves has a very slowed down version of "The Olympics - I'll Do A Little Bit More"

I found the whole racist thing very disturbing especially as there are still bigots and racist out there. Shame.

That's great, BigLad. Pleased you enjoyed it. Any observations on why the dance scenes aren't representative of what you experienced? My recollection was that they were a bit tame and lacking "passion".

[WanChaiMiller]

Ah! I'm glad to hear you say that. I've always liked her. Didn't she also front a youth club band with Marc Bolan in the East End way back? Always struck me as the oddest of combinations (but then Jimmy Page was a session guitarist on one of her hits I seem to recall so nothing is impossible.)

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Copy and paste CT. I saw a documentary on Bolan a few weeks ago - then read up a bit.....

'Bolan was a pupil at Northwold Primary School, Upper Clapton. He appeared as an extra in an episode of the television show Orlando, dressed as a mod. At the age of nine, he was given his first guitar and began a skiffle band. While at school, he played guitar in "Susie and the Hula Hoops," a trio whose vocalist was a 12-year-old Helen Shapiro. During lunch breaks at school, he would play his guitar in the playground to a small audience of friends. At 15, he was expelled from school for bad behaviour.[3]'

They said Bolan at the outset was a Bob Dylan / Donavan type act.

[BigLadonOS]

Very good that - but the intro and repeated refrain are identical to the instrumental bridge in Wilson Pickett's "In the Midnite Hour". Both released in 1966 and I suspect the Tomlin version is lifted from Pickett's hit - but I may be wrong...

Tried to google Lee Tomlin but he doesn't seem to exist. (It might be hard to find him anyway among all the references to Lee Tomlin, the footballer.)

Here you go CT.
http://www.davidstjohn.co.uk/groups8.html

A great read. You will find (IVOR TOMLIN) about half way down but read it all mate you will enjoy it.

[BigLadonOS]

That's great, BigLad. Pleased you enjoyed it. Any observations on why the dance scenes aren't representative of what you experienced? My recollection was that they were a bit tame and lacking "passion".

You right CT, the dance scenes were very tame and the girls doing the swaying and arm waving was never a part of the scene. The girls on the actual scene were pretty good dancers in their own way and the odd one or two could even match the blokes including the acrobatics but as this is set in 1968 I wouldn't really have a clue as to how they really danced back then.

The actual term (Northern Soul) wasn't termed until 1970 either?

[BigLadonOS]

Copy and paste CT. I saw a documentary on Bolan a few weeks ago - then read up a bit.....

'Bolan was a pupil at Northwold Primary School, Upper Clapton. He appeared as an extra in an episode of the television show Orlando, dressed as a mod. At the age of nine, he was given his first guitar and began a skiffle band. While at school, he played guitar in "Susie and the Hula Hoops," a trio whose vocalist was a 12-year-old Helen Shapiro. During lunch breaks at school, he would play his guitar in the playground to a small audience of friends. At 15, he was expelled from school for bad behaviour.[3]'

They said Bolan at the outset was a Bob Dylan / Donavan type act.

Off topic but here is Mark Felt (Marc Bolan) first try at recording https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjWB1V9wGe0http://

[CTMilller]

Copy and paste CT. I saw a documentary on Bolan a few weeks ago - then read up a bit.....

'Bolan was a pupil at Northwold Primary School, Upper Clapton. He appeared as an extra in an episode of the television show Orlando, dressed as a mod. At the age of nine, he was given his first guitar and began a skiffle band. While at school, he played guitar in "Susie and the Hula Hoops," a trio whose vocalist was a 12-year-old Helen Shapiro. During lunch breaks at school, he would play his guitar in the playground to a small audience of friends. At 15, he was expelled from school for bad behaviour.[3]'

They said Bolan at the outset was a Bob Dylan / Donavan type act.

Thanks, WCM, for the correct version of events. It's hard to imagine Bolan as a Dylan/Donovan act but you have to start somewhere. I remember seeing him, purely by chance, at the entrance to his flat just off Green Park one morning, seeing a girl off who had obviously just stayed the night. He was diminutive but I still thought "lucky guy". She was a real looker...

[CTMilller]

Off topic but here is Mark Felt (Marc Bolan) first try at recording https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjWB1V9wGe0http://

Sounds a bit like Gerry Marsden from Gerry and the Pacemakers!

[CTMilller]

You right CT, the dance scenes were very tame and the girls doing the swaying and arm waving was never a part of the scene. The girls on the actual scene were pretty good dancers in their own way and the odd one or two could even match the blokes including the acrobatics but as this is set in 1968 I wouldn't really have a clue as to how they really danced back then.

The actual term (Northern Soul) wasn't termed until 1970 either?

Actually that's a very good point. An anachronism to talk about Northern Soul in 1968 - so what we saw may have been accurate for the times. I watched a couple of You Tube videos of dancing at the Wigan Casino in the seventies (to get a sense of what you were talking about) and it was REALLY lively!