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Thread: o/t - Littering Fine.....

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    o/t - Littering Fine.....

    I know that some people will say that it's my own fault, but.....
    I have recently returned from China after 11 years and was completely unaware of the "new rules" regarding littering.
    Anyway....I was walking along Casterton Ave., smoking a cigarette, I finished the cigarette, looked for somewhere to dispose it but there were no bins/ashtrays anywhere to be seen (except on the petrol station forecourt), so I put out the cigarette and threw it in the gutter at the side of the road....then 2 blokes appeared from "nowhere" and handed me a £75:00 fine !
    Although I was furious I kept calm and asked them where the offending item was....they escorted me a few yards back to where I had come from and ponted at a few cigarettes on the pavement and claimed they were mine.
    I then did become furious....all the cigarettes they ponted out were Marlboro....I don't even smoke Marlboro !
    I showed them my cigarette packet, but they just ignored me.
    I asked to see the video he had supposedly taken with his bodycam but he refused and responded "if you want to see the evidence you will have to attend court and face a possible fine of £1500".
    So I asked them to contact the Police, ask them to come to the "crime scene" to which they replied "if we call the Police you will definately end up in court, a fine and Police costs".Why they could not just prove what I was accused of is beyond me.....If a Policeman had accused me, fair enough, I am sure he would have aked me to pick the cigarette up and dispose of it....if it could be found....but it couldn't by me or the 2 "kids" in bobble hats !
    Welcome back to England !

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    Just pay the fine and accept that you were very unlucky Map..

    Some councils charge 150 Quid for cigarette littering..


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/59719...nalty-notices/

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    Wrong skin colour mate. Welcome home.

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    .....sorry to hear that Map - they didn't show you any "Proof" that could connect you to a discarded Cig....simple, evidence dindn't match the crime !....so could have just walked, let them follow and get bored, or insisted they call the cops....which they obviously didn't want to do - so you must appeal - can't let them get away with it....this lot Kingdom Environmental Services ?.....it's all about the Money !

    https://www.burnleyexpress.net/news/...town-1-9305303

    Good Luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norder View Post
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    .....sorry to hear that Map - they didn't show you any "Proof" that could connect you to a discarded Cig....simple, evidence dindn't match the crime !....so could have just walked, let them follow and get bored, or insisted they call the cops....which they obviously didn't want to do - so you must appeal - can't let them get away with it....this lot Kingdom Environmental Services ?.....it's all about the Money !

    https://www.burnleyexpress.net/news/...town-1-9305303

    Good Luck.

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    Yes,he should just have walked away,but sometimes the brain doesn't function when put under pressure from these kind of guys..

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfinyalcabo View Post
    Yes,he should just have walked away,but sometimes the brain doesn't function when put under pressure from these kind of guys..
    can happen that way - Alf.....as with Map being away for so long - a lot to take in, changes etc...then that pounces on you !

    ....best to be extra careful when first entering from a distance....can bring something of an outside energy - could even be the gate you walk in - or look etc....just enough to make you stand out to eyes that'd normally pass you over - especially the predatory.
    Map - when they wrote you the fine, did you at ant time admit to......anything ?.....fact remains though - you were deceived !


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    it's a really cynical money-making scheme. council don't give a ****e about litter.

    when the council bin men come round there's as much garbage strewn across street as there in their lorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by footy_le_bordel View Post
    it's a really cynical money-making scheme. council don't give a ****e about litter.

    when the council bin men come round there's as much garbage strewn across street as there in their lorry.
    Spot On

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