Reply With QuoteAnimal...I've just watched part two but it ended far too early so I'll have to try and find it .....still very moving to me.Originally Posted by animallittle3
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Because after all the years he's been absent from this site, he's still a Tory c.ock....ring a bell?
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Animal...I've just watched part two but it ended far too early so I'll have to try and find it .....still very moving to me.
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It's extremely moving Brin because we know that disaster happened on so many occasions .
It was a bloody dangerous job mate , our youth , the times of the day and our relative lack of life experiences didn't really register just how dangerous it was down there .
The generations who worked underground before us had it far worse of course .
" The Enemy Within " line is something I'll never forgive from that women and party .
Both her , her party and any other anti miners should be thankful anyone ever went down there at all for that kind of money to keep this country supplied with fuel .
I left the industry 30 years ago , my choice , it was never the same after the strike and I knew full well what was coming as we all did , I got out before I was competing with 30k others for a single job in my town and fuq the redundancy payout , best piece of advice my old man ever gave me .
The press we had after the strike still boils my blood , yeh we weren't angels I ain't going to say otherwise .
At the end of the day all we wanted to do was put food on the table and pay our bills and keep our jobs , fecking hell .
Left its mark on me though , makes me laugh when folk say move on etc etc , you do to a certain extent but it's never really left me and it never will , you'd have to go through that to understand and people who make those kind of comments never did .
The reason folk went down there everyday and what they were made of is the reason they fought so hard to retain it .
Something people outside of the industry never got .
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I know there's a Fracking thread but it seems to have gone off in many directions .
Strange things happen underground , nobody really knows , yeh they do the science , yeh they sign this off and that off but the truth is there's always a risk
Something major will happen with this , people will die and there will be a tragedy .
Start fecking around down there and sometimes the science you think you know doesn't apply .
Things aren't what they seem underground , I sincerely hope I'm wrong with the fracking industry .
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Thank heavens for the Ken Loaches of this world
Can't believe there are those who question his motives & accuse him of profiteering as a result of his work
I watched him recently being interviewed by John Bishop & also by Cillian Murphy, both recommended viewing very humble & grounded man
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It's a long time ago but I'm pretty sure "clean energy" arguments barely featured if at all during the strike nor was the price of coal paramount. The idea of uneconomic is anyway an entirely flexible one in capitalist economies. Capitalism could not function without massive "socialistic" contributions from the public purse. Sometimes these contributions are invisible and comprise public goods from roads, infrastructure, health, education or the fact that many companies to not have to pay for their impact on wider society - impacts such as pollution, congestion, litter etc. Sometimes they are direct subsidies. The bank bailout was one example. The continued expensive support of UK and European agriculture is another and some studies suggest this costs taxpayers between £600-£2000 per annum. Tax relief on pensions costs £41bn per year and benefits the well off more than the poor and successive governments have been unwilling to risk offending the middle class lobby by equalising the 20% and 40% rates at a universal 30% relief despite experts suggesting it would massively increase pension saving by those who most need it. Another example - there are hundreds - is the "Help to Buy" scheme which has so far cost £10bn and most of that money went - according to Morgan stanley's report - to boosting the profits of the major housebuilders.
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Absolutely i would, i'd end it across the world right now if it was upto me, you see, it's killing the planet, i couldn't give two f's about the money side of stuff, but i can and do realise, unlike yourself and other blinkered folk, that the burning of fossil fuels is going to kill us all........the strike, and the fight for jobs, is a totally different issue, totally.
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One more thing for those ignorant enough to be criticising miners, everytime we went underground, nobody, not one, could be sure they would be coming back out in one piece, every shift, one of the reasons miner's were close, with a dark sense of humour. That's even with all the health and safety rules enforced by the union, it was and still is an inherently dangerous job, anyone wanting to have a go at ex miners then walk a mile in our shoes.....you most likely havent got the ballacks for it....
Just to add, to all the ex miners who were on strike and did their bit, i for one am extremely proud of the lot of you and doff my cap, haters will always hate, ignorance can only be cured through education, unfortunately, too many these days with blinkers on to listen and accept the truth.....
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Twin cat I forgot what a right wing two hat you are. What is your line of work I would bet it's some kind of toss off job.
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It's a mixed bag for me MMM , on one hand nobody needs to earn their living down there and put their lifes on the line , our kids and grandkids don't either thankfully .
Personally my health wasn't affected by working in the industry as oppose to thousands upon thousands who passed away at an earlier age through working underground .
The aftermath of the industry closing and it's economic effects are of course another matter .
The transition from working in the coal industry to another sector altogether wasn't easy , when I left I found myself in the textile industry for a couple of years before landing a job in Huddersfield working for a huge company who manufactured industrial motors .
Both companies are no longer in business and housing estates now occupy both sites .
Nowts for ever mate is it , looking through some old Bfc programmes from the 70's not long back and the NCB advertisements made me smile ...
" can you handle real power "
" £70 per week "
" be part of a real future "
Good grief !!!
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