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Thread: The blame game

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    The blame game

    Clint Eastwood is credited with saying "Opinions are like "****holes"; everybody's got one. So, setting aside our opinions as to what is going on at the club, let's concentrate on the facts alone:-

    1 Alan Hardy saved the club and has ploughed a small fortune into it. He wants success.

    2 The long suffering supporters have played their part and arrived in good numbers; despite the cost of entry tickets.
    They want success.


    So, who is to blame for the current predicament? Clearly it is the "professional" footballers who are happy to take any money going, but don't deliver on the pitch. At the end of the day, apart from maybe one player, the rest don't care about achieving success because they will still be paid when they fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supporter since 1951 View Post
    Clint Eastwood is credited with saying "Opinions are like "****holes"; everybody's got one. So, setting aside our opinions as to what is going on at the club, let's concentrate on the facts alone:-

    1 Alan Hardy saved the club and has ploughed a small fortune into it. He wants success.

    2 The long suffering supporters have played their part and arrived in good numbers; despite the cost of entry tickets.
    They want success.


    So, who is to blame for the current predicament? Clearly it is the "professional" footballers who are happy to take any money going, but don't deliver on the pitch. At the end of the day, apart from maybe one player, the rest don't care about achieving success because they will still be paid when they fail.
    Who chose the players? Who chose the person who chose the players?

    AH can want all the success that we all crave but like RT before him success in one area doesn't automatically mean success in another. We'd have done better if both of them had lowered their expectations.

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    You are missing the point. The players are supposed to be "professionals". As "professionals" they are contracted/expected to do their best on the pitch for their club - that is what they are paid for. In their contracts it does not state "play however you like", "don't bother playing if you don't like the chairman, or the manager". Or indeed "sulk as much as you like". etc., Every businessman craves for success and nobody invests money to fail. Alan Hardy has done his bit and it's now down to the players to get the club out of this mess - a mess created by their unprofessional attitude.

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    "The buck stops here" - that's what management is about.

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    It’s funny how footballers are put on a pedistal. If they don’t perform well there are always those with excuses or a rationale. It’s the manager. It’s the tactics. It’s the formation. IT,S ALL BULL.
    The players simply are not good enough collectively. We actually have some decent individuals. But a team, we don’t have. Yet.
    The summer was a shambles. Not improving the defensive personnel has impacted massively on the few good attacking options we know we have.
    We needed an experienced goalkeeper.
    We needed some better and bigger centre backs.
    We needed a new left back.
    We needed a midfield general.
    He didn’t replace any of the experience lost in the summer.
    It was not rocket science to most on this board where the improvements needed to be made. And they weren’t. HK has picked up the pieces and brought in some players, but if he had a proper transfer window, would he have got these lads?
    So in answer to who is to blame. The finger is pointed directly at our former manager. His poor recruitment allied with some poor choices with who was released has shafted the players left. Players can’t be something they are not. Yes they should put 100% in every game. I am sure they ‘try’. It’s difficult to quantify and would be subjective to suggest who put what effort in. They will know themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notts78 View Post
    It’s funny how footballers are put on a pedistal. If they don’t perform well there are always those with excuses or a rationale. It’s the manager. It’s the tactics. It’s the formation. IT,S ALL BULL.
    The players simply are not good enough collectively. We actually have some decent individuals. But a team, we don’t have. Yet.
    The summer was a shambles. Not improving the defensive personnel has impacted massively on the few good attacking options we know we have.
    We needed an experienced goalkeeper.
    We needed some better and bigger centre backs.
    We needed a new left back.
    We needed a midfield general.
    He didn’t replace any of the experience lost in the summer.
    It was not rocket science to most on this board where the improvements needed to be made. And they weren’t. HK has picked up the pieces and brought in some players, but if he had a proper transfer window, would he have got these lads?
    So in answer to who is to blame. The finger is pointed directly at our former manager. His poor recruitment allied with some poor choices with who was released has shafted the players left. Players can’t be something they are not. Yes they should put 100% in every game. I am sure they ‘try’. It’s difficult to quantify and would be subjective to suggest who put what effort in. They will know themselves.
    Great answer.

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    I blame the people.

    We have a capacity of close to 20,000, but on average less than a third that number show up at games.

    If the people cared we could fill the ground every game putting ***** cash into the coffers to buy better players.

    Simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhubarbPie View Post
    I blame the people.

    We have a capacity of close to 20,000, but on average less than a third that number show up at games.

    If the people cared we could fill the ground every game putting ***** cash into the coffers to buy better players.

    Simple.
    Guess the censored-out word ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhubarbPie View Post
    Guess the censored-out word ....
    More?

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    Quote Originally Posted by i961pie View Post
    More?
    Obviously, "More" is not censored ...

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