Relegation

[Geordie1974]

There was no miracle needed.

Aye because in the remaining games we were always going to get enough points with Man City,Liverpool,Leicester and Spurs to play in the last 10 games.I think a return of 14 pts from 30 was a good one.Do you not think the same.

[Geordie1974]

Especially as we only had 23 before he came in out of 28 games beforehand.

[ghostrider]

Aye because in the remaining games we were always going to get enough points with Man City,Liverpool,Leicester and Spurs to play in the last 10 games.I think a return of 14 pts from 30 was a good one.Do you not think the same.

When he came in with his big ego attitude of thinking denting the players day by dragging them all back in on their day off, he started by gaining 1 point out of his first 4 games.

My real argument is, if he'd have came in and met the players the very next day, then it's possible he could have got a bit more from them and actually staved off relegation.

We were only 1 point behind Sunderland and we had a game in hand, even though it was against Man City.

The last 6 games we were unbeaten, including Man City (draw) plus Liverpool (draw) and Tottenham (win).

We might not have escaped but I believe we could have with a better set of circumstances of new manager meet up.


So, in a nutshell, Rafa had the players and had 10 games and blew it.
He takes a portion of the blame but he did take us down.

[Geordie1974]

Do you have proof that the reason we took 1 point in the 1st four games was down to Rafas ego.

[TheOtherTerryMac]

It's really not worth it you two.

He's got his warped view and nothing will change him of it.

You're just going to end up annoying yourselves over it.

Correct enough said Jammy

[ex_pat_magpie]

Rafa did take the club down.
Who else was manager when they were relegated?

I thought you claimed to be a "knowledgeable fan". You and Dumbo keep jumping on this band wagon but consider Rafa's results in the too few games he had.

THAT WAS NOT RELEGATION FORM. He only had one defeat during a period that Ashley left far, far to late to give him a chance.

And any fan who knows the remotest thing about the game knows this. The entire blame lies with the owner and not the manager.

[Zippity]

As for Rafa taking us down, if a chav rags a car within an inch of its life for almost a year then after a few weeks of new ownership, with the new owner driving it carefully and sensibly, it breaks down and needs a new engine, brakes, tyres and suspension, would the guy at the garage blame the new owner or the chav?

[ghostrider]

Do you have proof that the reason we took 1 point in the 1st four games was down to Rafas ego.

Whatever you want to call it when coming into the club as manager and immediately getting all the players back to the club midway through their day off.
I'd call it ego but then again that's just my speculation.
It's hard to get facts for most things for all of us, so speculate we will.

[ghostrider]

As for Rafa taking us down, if a chav rags a car within an inch of its life for almost a year then after a few weeks of new ownership, with the new owner driving it carefully and sensibly, it breaks down and needs a new engine, brakes, tyres and suspension, would the guy at the garage blame the new owner or the chav?

There's was nothing wrong with the car other than the owner not being too good at steering it and not changing gear.
The new owner threw cold water on it to try and shock it into performing better, initially when a warm wash and wax would have been a good start before going through the gears properly.

[toptoon]

Whatever you want to call it when coming into the club as manager and immediately getting all the players back to the club midway through their day off.
I'd call it ego but then again that's just my speculation.
It's hard to get facts for most things for all of us, so speculate we will.

Can you tell me where I can officially read that that is what rafa did?