O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

The doctors at my local surgery do more private work than they do NHS work, then they moan about pensions

Ditto my dentist.

[BigLadonOS]

There are more salmonella deaths in the UK than the USA by size of population, 119 per year in USA, 67 here.

You've fallen for the pro-Remain BBC's misinformation.

https://briefingsforbrexit.com/fact-...fact-checkers/

This may well be the case and dont forget the horse meat saga that got past the EU controls, but as a matter of perception I would still like further checks were made by ourselves on food imports from anywhere in the world really but more so from the US.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

The supposed EU health rules are just there to provide a barrier to prevent cheaper food coming into Europe. Protecting agriculture particularly the french farmers.

As food quality rules they basically don’t work and are often ignored when it suits.

Here’s a good read

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2017-...-scandals.html

[BigLadonOS]

The supposed EU health rules are just there to provide a barrier to prevent cheaper food coming into Europe. Protecting agriculture particularly the french farmers.

As food quality rules they basically don’t work and are often ignored when it suits.

Here’s a good read

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2017-...-scandals.html

Yes but does this prove that more stringent tests on food are needed not less?

[ragingpup]

There are more salmonella deaths in the UK than the USA by size of population, 119 per year in USA, 67 here.

You've fallen for the pro-Remain BBC's misinformation.

https://briefingsforbrexit.com/fact-...fact-checkers/

There is rightfully a debate about the info the BBC presented which for some reason focused only on illnesses like salmonella. But the food standards issue is much greater than that. Here are a few of the foods banned in the US that will be making their way into our eateries soon unless we are vigilant:

https://www.healthfitnessrevolution....ternationally/

The point is that it isn’t just about foods that directly lead to illness like this. It is about the steady increase in additives and substances that cumulatively are not meant for the human body and will in many cause long term illnesses. They are banned from other countries for a good reason based on scientific evidence. Why would we join America in consuming these? Sure, swallowing all of this will enable greater trade agreements on a wider scale, but this is quite some cost.

[harpo88]

There are more salmonella deaths in the UK than the USA by size of population, 119 per year in USA, 67 here.

You've fallen for the pro-Remain BBC's misinformation.

https://briefingsforbrexit.com/fact-...fact-checkers/

Those numbers refer to a different bacteria. But ok a mixed picture here (and let's face it I'm not an expert but I do find some of this stats stuff interesting, how things come to be repeated without proper checking and we're all probably guilty of that). So the BBC stuff did seem to contain some incorrect stuff. At least they're more accountable and do have a way to challenge things - even if it takes a while to do so. If you listen to their More or Less radio programme they're happy to challenge the stats used in their own reports so this will inevitably come up again.

Anyway the source your link refers to UK data from a study from 2002 - when Public Health England (labs including Porton Down) have stats up to 2016. So that seems a bit cherry-picked too.

And a Dept Health report states that the dropoff in salmonella cases in the UK are a result of improved standards since mid 1990s.

(NB PHE stats appear to show 0 salmonella deaths from outbreaks caused by food in 2016, but don't know if that's the full picture): https://assets.publishing.service.go...6_may_2018.pdf

(By contrast US Govt says 378 salmonella deaths for 2011, which is the latest study that they refer to: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/17/1/pdfs/p1-1101.pdf)

[Stovicmiller]

You clearly have no understanding of what makes the US tick
Just regard it as a portent of things to come

did not the last American president say we would be at the back of the queue for a trade deal and now they have a different president and he's saying the opposite. Don't believe everything you hear or read,i don't.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Yes but does this prove that more stringent tests on food are needed not less?

Perhaps but it's s very large assumption that we would weaken our food laws if we leave the EU.

We could leave them all in place because most if not all are firmly in UK law and that would still apply.

The food thing is just another chapter in project fear by the remoaners

[Stovicmiller]

Exile, I'm curious to know what you do or did for a living. Seeing you seem to have such a good grasp of American economic strategy or are you just a bull****ter.

[Exiletyke]

Exile, I'm curious to know what you do or did for a living. Seeing you seem to have such a good grasp of American economic strategy or are you just a bull****ter.

Bullsh1tter
But just to add background
I did work in the US & was once appointed Chief *** advisor to the Chief of Staff who said to me more than once
"When I want your fcuking opinion I'll ask for it"
Hope that clears things up