O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[MillerBill]

[QUOTE=animallittle3;39075130]This is the interesting GM , we may not get along too great but I prefer to communicate with people such as yourself who clearly know what the score is rather than the Monday Morning Quarterback Back taking his train to work , assuming it turns up of course .

I'll level with you , I ain't got a problem with money getting made , people getting employed and the boost to the economy .

There's a but ......


You guys scare the shyte out of me and much of what the country is today can be traced back to your shenanigans a decade ago .

Inadvertently you elected Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party , without the crash he wouldn't be around , a chain of events you might say .

Does it ever cross your mind you could actually work under a Corbyn government ?

If not , why not ? , I'd be sincerely interested to know .[/QUOTE How can you trust a man who does a "U TURN" on one of the most important decisions this country has to make?

[animallittle3]

[QUOTE=MillerBill;39075202]

This is the interesting GM , we may not get along too great but I prefer to communicate with people such as yourself who clearly know what the score is rather than the Monday Morning Quarterback Back taking his train to work , assuming it turns up of course .

I'll level with you , I ain't got a problem with money getting made , people getting employed and the boost to the economy .

There's a but ......


You guys scare the shyte out of me and much of what the country is today can be traced back to your shenanigans a decade ago .

Inadvertently you elected Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party , without the crash he wouldn't be around , a chain of events you might say .

Does it ever cross your mind you could actually work under a Corbyn government ?

If not , why not ? , I'd be sincerely interested to know .[/QUOTE How can you trust a man who does a "U TURN" on one of the most important decisions this country has to make?

Wouldn't the biggest U turner actually be the Remainer PM ?

Trust is an interesting one with the finance industry Bill .

[MillerBill]

[QUOTE=animallittle3;39075246]

Wouldn't the biggest U turner actually be the Remainer PM ?

Trust is an interesting one with the finance industry Bill .

Neither are fit for purpose!!

[ragingpup]

Of course I am not saying that everyone who voted leave was aware of the potential economic costs (I was threatened with a ban on Tykes Mad for pointing some of them out as I was upsetting the ‘I don’t want to hear Polish being spoken’ brigade). I can always tell that you are getting flustered when you start taking such silly ‘straw man’ points. I assume that it happens when you been taken too far away from the comfort of your Momentum issue scripts.

I’m saying that people were warned in clear terms of the possible economic costs and that many chose not to listen, because their own beliefs made them happy to accept the ‘project fear’ tag. And then they voted leave. Do you think the standard of debate would be any better in a further election? I don’t. Hard Brexiteers were busily trashing the BoE’s forecasts today. The EU have made it clear that there will be no renegotiation, but Labour continue to peddle the myth that there can be if they win a GE.

And it’s not all about the economy. In addition there is the social costs of membership. Whatever you and I might think about it, large numbers of people are unsettled and unhappy about the large scale immigration that followed 2004. Perhaps some people made the choice to accept some economic pain to stop that?

You appear willing to ignore the vote and appear happy with Labour going back on their manifesto. That’s fine. It’s your choice.

So suppose you get your second referendum. What questions are going on it? If it’s a three way vote (May’s deal - No deal – Remain) the leavers are going to be up in arms because it’s a rigged election that will split the leave vote. If it’s a two way vote (Remain – Leave) it takes us no further from where we are now and if it’s two way (May – No deal) the remainers will not accept the outcome.

Most importantly, if you manage to obtain a remain vote, where does that leave us? A significant part of the population will feel mightily pyssed off at having their views overturned and you will have set a precedent that if you don’t like the outcome of a referendum, you can bellyache until you get another one. So how many years before the remainers secure a further in out vote? Two years – five years? You would hardly be in a position to be able to argue against having one.

I think it also possible that the referendum may well have changed the relationship between the UK and EU for good. For the last 20 years or so, the UK has been leading a small group of countries who have resisted the federalist instincts and intentions of France and Germany, notably by declining to join the Euro. I wonder whether we would have the credibility to continue that fight if we do a 180 and pull back from Article 50.

In my view, the country voted leave and leave we must. I’m happy to do it on the best terms possible, short of the Brexit in name only of deals like Norway has.

P.s. I hear a whisper that the DUP are taking a kicking from their supporters and are looking for a way to get out of the corner they have painted themselves into over May's deal. Who knows?

Where have I said that I am in favour of a 2nd referendum? My last line in the quote you reply to was "I'm personally happy to leave the EU but will argue to keep as close trade ties to the EU as possible". So please take that to mean that I am not supporting a 2nd referendum.

You then say "In my view, the country voted leave and leave we must. I’m happy to do it on the best terms possible, short of the Brexit in name only of deals like Norway has.". So are you convinced that May's deal is the best that we can get?

So what do you think we should do if this doesn't get through the commons? At this point do you want us to walk away with no deal? Or would you try to make an amendment to the deal and take it back to the EU? (if they allow us to)

If so, what amendments would you be willing to accept?

[Exiletyke]

The world [well pehaps not quite] awaits Judge Rinder's ruling

[gm_gm]

This is the interesting GM , we may not get along too great but I prefer to communicate with people such as yourself who clearly know what the score is rather than the Monday Morning Quarterback Back taking his train to work , assuming it turns up of course .

I'll level with you , I ain't got a problem with money getting made , people getting employed and the boost to the economy .

There's a but ......


You guys scare the shyte out of me and much of what the country is today can be traced back to your shenanigans a decade ago .

Inadvertently you elected Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party , without the crash he wouldn't be around , a chain of events you might say .

Does it ever cross your mind you could actually work under a Corbyn government ?

If not , why not ? , I'd be sincerely interested to know .

That’s a great post animal, just got back from a bankers conference 220 there at the genting club in Sheffield. Please don’t be scared of anyone who has the ececonomy at heart.

My view is simple, more high paid jobs, the UK being a high tech hub which we are with fintech. Leeds and Manchester is leading the way outside London....let’s bring it to South Yorkshire

[millmoormagic]

That’s a great post animal, just got back from a bankers conference 220 there at the genting club in Sheffield. Please don’t be scared of anyone who has the ececonomy at heart.

My view is simple, more high paid jobs, the UK being a high tech hub which we are with fintech. Leeds and Manchester is leading the way outside London....let’s bring it to South Yorkshire

Hahahaha, "scared of anyone who has the economy at heart" are these the exact same parasites that basically caused the global crash in 2008, leading to millions and millions of people having austerity forced onto them, no doubt killing many on the way, oh, those same global capitalists that had to be bailed out in a socialistesque quantitive easing method, please tell me you're joking, right???

[gm_gm]

Hahahaha, "scared of anyone who has the economy at heart" are these the exact same parasites that basically caused the global crash in 2008, leading to millions and millions of people having austerity forced onto them, no doubt killing many on the way, oh, those same global capitalists that had to be bailed out in a socialistesque quantitive easing method, please tell me you're joking, right???

Your a hypocrite, you say you want jobs but you’d happily trash the economy

[millmoormagic]

Your a hypocrite, you say you want jobs but you’d happily trash the economy

I've already proven you as the massive hypocrite on here on the other thread, lauding tory policy's then bleating about zero hour contracts, what a joker you are.

[animallittle3]

That’s a great post animal, just got back from a bankers conference 220 there at the genting club in Sheffield. Please don’t be scared of anyone who has the ececonomy at heart.

My view is simple, more high paid jobs, the UK being a high tech hub which we are with fintech. Leeds and Manchester is leading the way outside London....let’s bring it to South Yorkshire

It might be a great post but tha hasn't answered it !!!!