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Thread: O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    Not in the slightest!
    You know full well that it does annoy you when someone plays you at your own game & doesn't answer your questions
    This is evidenced regularly when you make constant references to to your obsession with trying in one form or another to ellicit an answer [often from topics of the past] but hey ho we all do it, the one difference is that you are in denial & even lie about it

    "Not in the slightest!" my arse

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    Take the blinkers off.The EU is sinking faster than the Titanic.Look what's happening in France,Italy, Germany etc.It's a disaster!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    Take the blinkers off.The EU is sinking faster than the Titanic.Look what's happening in France,Italy, Germany etc.It's a disaster!!
    Greece -20% GDP in last 10 years, Italy no growth in a similar period,

    Youth unemployment
    Spain 34%,
    Greece 43%
    Italy 31%


    Germany 6.1%

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    What a complete waste of time delaying the vote. The EU says they won't renegotiate and even if they did does anybody seriously think that May could get any meaningful concessions from them.

    She is off her trolley and its time for her and her party to piss off for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    Take the blinkers off.The EU is sinking faster than the Titanic.Look what's happening in France,Italy, Germany etc.It's a disaster!!
    True that the neo-liberal policies of the EU in the last 40 years have contributed to a lot of social inequality. But what are you planning to replace that with? Neo-liberalism isn't just an EU thing, it's our default setting and basis of our economic fabric. I'd love to see that changed and will join the voices of protest against it but just exiting the EU won't do that without an alternative framework. So what for you are the priorities of what we should do once we leave, if you get the No Deal?

    For clarity, the protests in France are not against the EU, they are against a particular leader and the political choices that he is making. the EU doesn't force him to work in that way. he could use the revenue creating mechanisms within the French tax system to address some of the issues that the French citizens are protesting about. He is choosing not to, but not because of the EU. We have freedom in EU countries to address social inequality. Our successive governments have chosen not to. It's their responsibility, not the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller View Post
    Indeed. But bad news for importers - particularly those that import component parts for their manufacturing processes (I understand 68% of imports from the EU is for this reason) and goods that are passed straight on to consumers in this country.
    Any importer worth his salt should be negotiating prices in £ sterling thereby offsetting any issues arising from currency fluctuations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm_gm View Post
    Greece -20% GDP in last 10 years, Italy no growth in a similar period,

    Youth unemployment
    Spain 34%,
    Greece 43%
    Italy 31%


    Germany 6.1%

    Could that be why they're not keen on us leaving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolymiller View Post
    What a complete waste of time delaying the vote. The EU says they won't renegotiate and even if they did does anybody seriously think that May could get any meaningful concessions from them.

    She is off her trolley and its time for her and her party to piss off for good.
    If we or she grew a pair we should realise we are not at the beck & call of Juncker & Barnier but in a stronger position than we realise
    Isn't it odd that we are now told by the ECJ that we can unilaterally reverse Brexit

    The backstop keeps us in the CU potentially forever
    We would still be under the jurisdiction of the ECJ
    Last edited by Exiletyke; 10-12-2018 at 06:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    Anybody who wants to deny the democratic vote of the people!!!.Why are these people so obsessed in staying in this dictatorial organisation, which we have subsidised over so many years.Take the blinkers off and see why the likes of the dodgepot billionaire Soros is financing project fear.Time for Corbyn to wake up and let us know what he REALLY thinks about the EU.May is a remainer,Corbyn is against staying tied up to this corrupt club but why is he so quiet.Stick to your principles,come out and be brave.
    Agree with that Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    Anybody who wants to deny the democratic vote of the people!!!.Why are these people so obsessed in staying in this dictatorial organisation, which we have subsidised over so many years.Take the blinkers off and see why the likes of the dodgepot billionaire Soros is financing project fear.Time for Corbyn to wake up and let us know what he REALLY thinks about the EU.May is a remainer,Corbyn is against staying tied up to this corrupt club but why is he so quiet.Stick to your principles,come out and be brave.
    All well and good and a noble statement, thing is, what happens in the interim, who is affected for the five years(at the very least) after brexit? who explains to those affected directly and indirectly? Nobody seems to want to address that issue, do they??

    Once again i read the words 'Project fear'......it's not fear, it's FACT, not hard to research really...as for mentioning Soros, i suppose the leave campaign just involved ordinary folk on ordinary salaries, remind me again which side has been found adopting dodgy(at best) financial shenanigans...

    As for Corbyn, personally i think he's played a blinder upto yet, remember, he's in the opposition, not in power, he's played the lot like fiddles to a place where the tory party is in absolute turmoil, never ever a bad thing that, is it?

    The fact is that no deal Brexit, under the tories, will cripple the country, it would give the rabid right wing carte blanche to strip environment regulation and workers rights and employment laws etc etc, the other fact is that if we really are going to do a no deal brexit, then the only viable option for the country's benefit as a whole is to do that under a labour gov't....

    Call a GE....

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