all this **** about the debt being the mortgage for the ground

[Kingstonbob1]

if i lick his backside why do i call sheppard for selling it to him

truth is he aint a great club owner
although peope dont realsie how close we were to going under so i thank him for saving us as a buisness
is he a fans great idea of an owner
nope

but as someone that goes and watches the team
as someone who doesnt make excuse for not going to see the eam

ire a real fan not a stay at home
i thank him for keeping my club afloat
something the great geordie owners wjo sold it to him wouldnt have done

You try to come across as a massive NUFC fan, martyr but all you do is complain and troll on here. As has been said Shepherd was ill in hospital when Hall did the deal well known fact. You’d think you were they only one that goes through the turnstiles. Well I’m a ‘real’ fan (whatever that is?) as well and want the best for the club unlike you.

[ghostrider]

You try to come across as a massive NUFC fan, martyr but all you do is complain and troll on here. As has been said Shepherd was ill in hospital when Hall did the deal well known fact. You’d think you were they only one that goes through the turnstiles. Well I’m a ‘real’ fan (whatever that is?) as well and want the best for the club unlike you.

Wanting the best from the club does not only come with one mindset on what that is.

Wanting the best for the club is down to each individuals thinking on what that is.
Some think anyone other than Ashley is best for the club.
Some think better the devil you know.
Some think boycotting games is best. Some think it hurts it.

This list is long and we all have our gripes and what if's and well you know's, etc.
What's best for this club requires foresight and none of us have it.

What appears to be best for this club requires debate from opinions and that's not trolling or being some kind of Martyr. It's simple debate, whether heated or otherwise.
The issue arises when a minority go against a built up majority. That's when it becomes (in some cases) straw man arguments because the original debate gains people no ground.

People just need to accept that we all have differing opinions whether it's a few who are steadfast or some who disagree on minor points.
That way we can all build a decent forum up based on that.

[toptoon]

Wanting the best from the club does not only come with one mindset on what that is.

No, I think all real supporters want the same thing. The different views come from how to get there.

Noone expects instant success but to be successful in the PL without consistent investment (never mind profit taking) in the squad is not possible.

[TheOtherTerryMac]

Wanting the best from the club does not only come with one mindset on what that is.

Wanting the best for the club is down to each individuals thinking on what that is.
Some think anyone other than Ashley is best for the club.
Some think better the devil you know.
Some think boycotting games is best. Some think it hurts it.

This list is long and we all have our gripes and what if's and well you know's, etc.
What's best for this club requires foresight and none of us have it.

What appears to be best for this club requires debate from opinions and that's not trolling or being some kind of Martyr. It's simple debate, whether heated or otherwise.
The issue arises when a minority go against a built up majority. That's when it becomes (in some cases) straw man arguments because the original debate gains people no ground.

People just need to accept that we all have differing opinions whether it's a few who are steadfast or some who disagree on minor points.
That way we can all build a decent forum up based on that.

You can’t build a decent forum up when posters are allowed to post lies to get a reaction to a post

That is100% trolling.

[pboromag]

No, I think all real supporters want the same thing. The different views come from how to get there.

Noone expects instant success but to be successful in the PL without consistent investment (never mind profit taking) in the squad is not possible.

all iwant is a team that tries
in what league i dont care
infact i as a match going fan would probabaly prefer to be in the fizzy

i can see why the stay at homes want prem footy
seeing the best players from around the world etc from the comfort of their armchairs

me i go for the atmosphere
and its miles better in the fizzy

the real fans footy

[ex_pat_magpie]

all iwant is a team that tries
in what league i dont care
infact i as a match going fan would probabaly prefer to be in the fizzy

i can see why the stay at homes want prem footy
seeing the best players from around the world etc from the comfort of their armchairs

me i go for the atmosphere
and its miles better in the fizzy

the real fans footy

Well go and watch and support a Fizzy team and you would have less to moan, whinge and bitch about, particularly on here.

[waalsendmick]

If the club tried (in the league we are in) then the team could try (in your eyes).

You keep attacking the symptom not the cause.

[ghostrider]

No, I think all real supporters want the same thing. The different views come from how to get there.

Noone expects instant success but to be successful in the PL without consistent investment (never mind profit taking) in the squad is not possible.

The squad has been invested in. It might not be top top quality but it is a stronger squad. It just requires working on and being used to full effect.
The issue always comes to the fore about what investment actually is and how much is required.
We definitely need additions of quality but we aren't too far off competing with all the other also-ran teams.

As for competing with the general choreographed elites, we'd be nuts to attempt to do so because it would be money badly spent and a major hit for us to really moan about in short order, in my opinion.


If we're going to do it we have to do it by being clever. I believe we are being clever in that sense but we need everything to gel, including a harmony throughout the club.

[ghostrider]

You can’t build a decent forum up when posters are allowed to post lies to get a reaction to a post

That is100% trolling.

Totally disagree.
I think his posts are a mixture of all kinds.
There's all sorts in them. It creates debate whether people call him a troll, liar or having a dig or whatever.

i could bring you a whole host of posts up by different posters that are the real basis of trolling if you want me to. I'll pm them to you so I don't spoil the thread.

[Stanleymag]

The squad has been invested in. It might not be top top quality but it is a stronger squad. It just requires working on and being used to full effect.
The issue always comes to the fore about what investment actually is and how much is required.
We definitely need additions of quality but we aren't too far off competing with all the other also-ran teams.

As for competing with the general choreographed elites, we'd be nuts to attempt to do so because it would be money badly spent and a major hit for us to really moan about in short order, in my opinion.


If we're going to do it we have to do it by being clever. I believe we are being clever in that sense but we need everything to gel, including a harmony throughout the club.

Oh well. Same sh1t different day. It's like a broken record. I'm fed up of it.

We had a few good weeks.

I'm packing in til the New Year. 👍👍👍👍👍