O/T:- Is Brexit a dead duck?

[Notts78]

As soon as the referendum result was announced the government should have concentrated on putting in place new trade deals outside the EU. Instead they have tried to bodge a deal which keeps us as near to remain as possible.When a remainder in in charge of negotiations, what else can we expect.

Would the UK not have broken some law by doing what you suggest? I thought we unable to ‘officially’ start talks, and don’t we have to sort ourselves out with the WTO as we are only members of it through our EU membership?

I agree that a stout remainer should not have assumed control of our exit. But then those that ran the leave campaign distanced themselves from the hornets nest after vigorously shaking it. Brexit is like Notts current season, shambolic.

[drillerpie]

I don't think this is the establishment trying to keep us in. They've had plenty of chances to do that in other ways, only yesterday the High Court ruled that the violations of the campaign rules by the leave campaign (and there were plenty) weren't enough to invalidate the referendum, that would've been an easy way to do it. Last week the European Court ruled against an 80 year old ex soldier who settled in Italy after going there to fight who wasn't allowed to vote - another PR friendly way to do it - but they didn't.

I think generally speaking we always look for conspiracies when it's normally a question of incompetence and slow decision making when large organisations are involved.

Also MPs in this country are elected to take decisions that they see fit for the country. People who expect their MP to be in favour of Brexit at any cost don't understand the rules and traditions of our political system.

I'm not saying everything in this country is perfect but it is certainly a free country and I'd advise anyone who disagrees to travel a bit more.

[i961pie]

I don't think this is the establishment trying to keep us in. They've had plenty of chances to do that in other ways, only yesterday the High Court ruled that the violations of the campaign rules by the leave campaign (and there were plenty) weren't enough to invalidate the referendum, that would've been an easy way to do it. Last week the European Court ruled against an 80 year old ex soldier who settled in Italy after going there to fight who wasn't allowed to vote - another PR friendly way to do it - but they didn't.

I think generally speaking we always look for conspiracies when it's normally a question of incompetence and slow decision making when large organisations are involved.

Also MPs in this country are elected to take decisions that they see fit for the country. People who expect their MP to be in favour of Brexit at any cost don't understand the rules and traditions of our political system.

I'm not saying everything in this country is perfect but it is certainly a free country and I'd advise anyone who disagrees to travel a bit more.

They are elected to make decisions but they are also elected to represent their constituents