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[alfinyalcabo]

Just apply the old adage "count to ten before posting and read what you have written" .I always do..

Then again I'm old and wise unlike you young whippersnappers. Life's to short for arguing ..

[Saxo1man41]

Just apply the old adage "count to ten before posting and read what you have written" .I always do..

Then again I'm old and wise unlike you young whippersnappers. Life's to short for arguing ..

That's my point.. I think your generation don't really believe in male vulnerability, mental health issues.. Men were to be strong and that was it.. Its fair enough, but personally I'm glad.. Very glad.. Attitudes have moved on from that.

[alfinyalcabo]

That's my point.. I think your generation don't really believe in male vulnerability, mental health issues.. Men were to be strong and that was it.. Its fair enough, but personally I'm glad.. Very glad.. Attitudes have moved on from that.

You are so wrong Saxo,my dad suffered from mental problems for quite a few years ,but made a full recovery after treatment in the Lamont clinic at Burnley hospital,but unfortunately his sister my aunt drowned herself in the Leeds and Liverpool Canal. I fully understand what you are saying and yes it's great to see things have moved on regarding mental health issues..

[Saxo1man41]

You are so wrong Saxo,my dad suffered from mental problems for quite a few years ,but made a full recovery after treatment in the Lamont clinic at Burnley hospital,but unfortunately his sister my aunt drowned herself in the Leeds and Liverpool Canal. I fully understand what you are saying and yes it's great to see things have moved on regarding mental health issues..

Fair enough.. Thought you may be a bit like my step dad.. Who's a good man by the way.. Just of a certain time though.

[AucklandRover]

I know what you're saying, Saxo.
I was brought up not to show emotions, and even to keep pain to myself.
It took me a long time to bring myself to be a bit more open.
Even now, I'm not really comfortable with all the kissy-huggy stuff.
As far as mental health issues are concerned, however, like Alf, I have first-hand experience.
My grandmother (not surprisingly, after 19 pregnancies!) spent her last ten years in what was then called an asylum.
My daughter developed bipolar disorder at 18.
My wife, after a lifetime free of such issues, has been diagnosed with "generalised anxiety disorder" in the last year.
I am one of those people who can just shrug things off - even work stress - so it is hard for me to understand what it feels like, but I have certainly got over the "Just pull yourself together" syndrome that used to be the way that mental illness was dealt with!

Even in New Zealand, where "toughening up" and being "staunch" are part of the culture, attitudes have changed. They had to. For example, the suicide rate amongst young Maori men is very high, and for years, this was just swept under the counter.