Reply With QuoteAnd I liked Michael Foot but I suppose his leadership qualities were questionableOriginally Posted by BogBrush1903
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Ian Duncan-Smith
Tony Blair
Michael Howard
Margaret Thatcher
Ted Heath
Anthony Eden
...to name but a few low calibre leaders
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And I liked Michael Foot but I suppose his leadership qualities were questionable
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William Hague
Alex Douglas-Home
Ramsay MacDonald
Murdoch will tell you what to think about the trap that Theresa May thinks she's set for the boy, and tell you who to blame in the aftermath.
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Corbyn is a f'uckin a'rsehole.
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He has fallen for it and is in talks with her
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They're all better than the Maybot and that f@cking lunatic Corbyn
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Nae quite how Kenneth Clarke described it on Radio 4 this morning.He has fallen for it and is in talks with her
He's right when he says that it cannot be fixed in the 8 days. He all but predicted a looooooooong extension, but only if the EU's patience continues.
He predicts that it will take the parties themselves and groups/factions to compromise rather than leaders.
He thinks we will agree, eventually, a Common Market arrangement on trade, but will leave the EU politically.
He also thinks that there's too much hysteria and hyperbole, and that calm heads are required, and that these will carry the day.
But I suppose the political, philosphical and economics experts on the Off Topic section of a dying fitba forum are really the people to whom we should listen on this most fractious and insane sotter.
I'm a socialist, and there was only one manifesto that offered a socialist solution to our problems in the 2017 General Election. Although today's news warns again about the debilitating effects of salt in the diet, I take a fuucking huge pinch of it when I hear the wishy-washy weasely term "progressive" used, other than in the context of King Crimson, Yes, or Greenslade.
Other opinions are available but they're sh1te.
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I’d also consider myself a socialist but what I’m being offered by Corbyn, especially in Scotland, isn’t that. As for Europe, there’s nothing in it for them to offer the extension. We’ll get told to f*ck off unless we have an general election, which Corbyn will lose, or a people’s vote, which won’t be as clear cut as people like to think.
The whole things a mess and we’re better off out it.
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Keep Scotland in the EU
England can be the poor relation, accepting our rules and grovelling for crumbs from our table.
Socialism died when folk scrambled to buy their council house for a pittance, afa pleased at how clever they'd been while depriving others of the housing that they themselves had been glad to accept.
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No arguments, but the 40 years of Thatcherism since needs breaking, and the mild social democracy offering in 2017 in raising the issues of housing, poverty, working conditions, wealth re-distribution and strategic investment, would be a start at reclaiming decency from the three generations of me-me-me-me-me and fuucking now-now-now-now, if you don't mind, culture that is the status quo and the almost-accepted norm. And that's what has ultimately led to the kirn we're in. "Progressive" is just managing capitalism, fear of scaring the cuddies and larcenous pricks taking their money into tax havens having exploited the poor and just-getting-by.
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