The Ref can only give a desicion if he sees it. Anything else is guessing. VAR will sort these sort of things next season.
Seen the game tonight with Man Utd and De Gea has the ball in one hand undecided whether to kick it or throw it.
Before he knows what's happening, Aubameyang runs from behind him and heads it out of his hand and taps it home for a goal.
According to Gary Lineker on MOTD, the Ref never saw what went off, very poor officiating and, where was the linesman in all of this?
The Ref cancelled the goal ??? Why if he did not see what happened ?? Surely he must have had a buzz from the assistant linesman.
The rules as stated by the FA clearly states that, 'A keeper is considered in possession of the ball when he holds the ball with his HANDS, it is in between his body and the ground, or when he is bouncing or throwing the ball in the air'
De Gea dit NOT have the ball between TWO hands, it was not between his body and the ground as he clearly had it held out in ONE hand.
A total farce by the REF for not seeing this happen, furthermore the assistant Ref, (if he buzzed the Ref to update him) doesn't know the rules.
Very very poor officiating. What's more baffling, with it being such a debate, why didn't Lineker and co not discuss this??
As a previous Ref I would have let the goal stand as it was well within the guidelines.
Anyone remember Andy Crosby v Andy Dibble...Notts Forest v Man City ....Crosby's goal stood and the rule hasn't changed since.
Last edited by Brin; 05-12-2018 at 11:49 PM.
The Ref can only give a desicion if he sees it. Anything else is guessing. VAR will sort these sort of things next season.
You're up early Jock
Days, mate.
Is it not also a rule that the balls not in play till the goal keeper releases it.
I would have thought so but it seems no one knows the rules anymore.
Also they suppose to only have 6 seconds to release the ball.
Brin is right though about not seeing the incident, maybe one of the other officials spoke to him through the ear piece.
A few times players have kicked ball forward when taking a free kick, new rules state balls in play when that happens but seems another rule no one knows about.
What are the rules again?
Last edited by millertop; 06-12-2018 at 09:28 AM.
Theirs & ours,You will see this when we play Man City.
Here's the comparison. Exactly what happened last night....
https://youtu.be/3y_IOU6Lb2g
The fact that Crosby's goal was not disallowed does not create any sort of precedent.
FA law 12 includes the following:
"A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball when:
the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
holding the ball in the outstretched open hand
bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air
A goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of the ball with the hands."
The referee was correct to disallow the Arsenal goal
Wrinkly where have you pulled that from? I've looked at the rules and not come up with anything like that.
Totally contradicts what you've posted- 'the ball is between the hands (WHICH IT WASN'T) or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) AGAIN WHICH IT WASN'T or by touching it with any part of the hands WHICH IT WASN'T IN HIS HANDS BUT HIS HAND.
I feel the goal was disallowed solely because the Ref didn't see it and din't have a ferkin clue what was going on.
Like I said, the law hasn't changed since the Crosby goal it should have stood.
NB. Have you actually seen what happened?
Last edited by Brin; 06-12-2018 at 05:29 PM.