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Personally I think there is a distinct difference between handball and the ball hitting the hand. One entails intent to obtain an unfair advantage, the other is an accident. Like many I have seen the incident many times and read and heard Jay’s atermatch comments. Personally I do not think there was any intent but I accept others might disagree. He admitted that the ball hit his hand and not that he handled the ball. Yet I have heard and seen a lot of people saying that he has admitted handball. As far as I am aware he has said no such thing and it is irresponsible to twist the matter like this.
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It’s an interesting dilemma Q buddy. I’m no expert, but understand that in addition to the “deliberate or not” question, there is an aspect relating to whether the players hand was in an ‘unnatural’ position ? That interpretation clearly down to the referee and assistants. Very subjective.
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Refs take the easy option nowadays and give the foul even if the ball is drilled from a few yards onto the arm/hand. The rule is it's handball if deliberate. Commentators & punters on TV talk crap then others follow.
I don't think, in fact I'm sure, Rodders didn't mean to handle it.
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As I have stated before, the hand did strike the ball but in no way was it intentional. He put his hand to the ground to break his fall and in that motion, the ball struck it. If you read the FA rule on handball, for a free kick to be awarded it has to intentional. It wasn't and therefore the goal should have stood.
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Rod is an honest chap. Decent guy, but anyone in his position in extra time at home scoring an equalizer in front of the Brummie end would have found it nigh impossible to tell the ref at the moment it happened. Could have happened to us and we would have had to just take it.
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I seem to remember that earlier in the season we lost at Boro to an injury time goal, which was a handball by Ayala before he ‘scored’. We didn’t beat Brentford because, at the end, they scored from a foul throw. Fortunately, this time, the poor decision went our way.
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This handball situation has gone on for too long in football.
The answer is simple,ANY contact between hand and ball should be given as a foul without exception.
In hockey ANY contact between ball and foot is treated as a foul.
It’s a problem easily solved.
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Said this for many years and have been shouted down on Many occasions over it but I'm in complete agreement with you mickd.give em all and no arguments then,end ofOriginally Posted by mickd1961
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You will have players deliberately aiming at oppositions arms & hands to gain a free kick. Doesn't work for me Mick & 53.
Would the upper arm count? How about the shoulder?
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It would solve the problem if they wore strait jackets
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