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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by County58 View Post
    If you had the talent in the first place you wouldnt have been playing sunday football
    For one season I played alongside Mick Waitt, he must have met a fantastic coach!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    For one season I played alongside Mick Waitt, he must have met a fantastic coach!
    Don't waste your time on him County58 he knows sweet FA about football. This message board gives him something meaningful in his life, sad really. You're bang on about Spiess though. And yes Mick Waitt met Dick Bate...

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    Wasn't Fabian Speiss around under your much preferred regime though McCulloch? I thought Alan Hardy was the big bad villian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    I get the point about poor coaching, but if Speiss is as talented as you and MiG claim he is, why has his career path taken a Torquay / Alfreton / Boston / Nantwich route? Do they all have poor coaches as well?
    Thats the whole point Mr Pie. There were no GK coaches at those clubs. The biggest area that is missing is the mental strength to cope with disappointment and the strenght to cope with the mistakes, good coaches can manage that, poor coaches cant. Its not just about coaching the technical part of the game, its the mental side and that is the biggest killer for any keeper, not his ability as a keeper but his ability to manage his mind... thats where the real coaching is done. I guess its the same for any player, if your manager tells you you are crap oftewn enough then you will believe it.... Derry and Abbot were really good at that. Its all in the head **** coaches fill the heads of players with negativity and wonder why they dont perform. Top clubs have sports psychologists in excactly to manage that side of the game, David James opening discusses the mental challeges he faced and used sports pschologist to help him through his carreer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    Sorry I can't be arsed to watch because anyone can do a video showing good points. The same could easily be done showing his many mistakes, I remember one particularly bad flap when he was on loan at Bristol Rovers. Perhaps he's just not very good. I only played Sunday Morning Division One, maybe if I had been really well coached I could have played in the Premiership!
    its a 20 second video its one game its one comment that came up on twitter by another county fan that saw an outstanding performance. If you dont watch how can you comment? Oh and show me any keeper including todays premier league keepers you couldnt fill a video of mistakes with. .... it comes down to the quality ogf coaching...mental coaching that keeps them up there and not being dropped after making a mistake. Stuart Nelson was good at that ..any goal...never his fault !!!!
    Last edited by County58; 14-01-2019 at 04:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by County58 View Post
    Thats the whole point Mr Pie. There were no GK coaches at those clubs. The biggest area that is missing is the mental strength to cope with disappointment and the strenght to cope with the mistakes, good coaches can manage that, poor coaches cant. Its not just about coaching the technical part of the game, its the mental side and that is the biggest killer for any keeper, not his ability as a keeper but his ability to manage his mind... thats where the real coaching is done. I guess its the same for any player, if your manager tells you you are crap oftewn enough then you will believe it.... Derry and Abbot were really good at that. Its all in the head **** coaches fill the heads of players with negativity and wonder why they dont perform. Top clubs have sports psychologists in excactly to manage that side of the game, David James opening discusses the mental challeges he faced and used sports pschologist to help him through his carreer.
    So let me get this right - Fabian Spiess is a quality goalkeeper, but because he's never had the right coaching at any point in his career he's ended up at Nantwich Town. If I were you I would be alerting the top clubs to this travesty, because I'm sure they could sign him up for peanuts. Act as his agent and you could make a fortune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by County58 View Post
    Oh and show me any keeper including todays premier league keepers you couldnt fill a video of mistakes with. ....
    Exactly, which is why I said posting videos (good or bad) is pretty pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCullochisGod View Post
    This message board gives him something meaningful in his life, sad really.
    **Irony Alert**

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    You are still missing the point. I am talking about wasted potential. And yes if he got a good coach he would be playing at a higher level than he is. Read my posts.. As could be said for many other youngsters.coached to and out of the you system then let down as young Pros and Notts have specialised in this and thrown away plenty of high potential good young players.

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    Spiess is not the only example though is he, of an up and coming player who didn't get the nurturing/coaching/development in order to make the grade. There must have been some raw talent there to get to the level he did. After that you need the talent to continue to develop whilst support comes from the club. Most posters on here can come up with a dozen names in 5 minutes where the player has reached the stage of knocking on the door only to see us sign some complete has-been whose career is on the wain. We are still doing it now, stifling development and opportunities. When is Osbourne going to get an opportunity for example? He probably won't. His path will be blocked by playing Hewitt in his position until we can sign someone whose end of career move is being lined up. The example of Pilkington playing while Spiess warmed the bench is a valid one.

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