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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    DFCSS board want to sell the A Shares as that would be a tidy boost to their bank balance, but they are terrified of the recriminations. And as we all know, DFCSS have no interest in what the fans think so time for them to decide before it drags on any longer.
    Hi Taintedice.
    If you had been present at last Saturday’s AGM you would have heard that when FPS purchased the A shares from the society they expected DFCSS to put the funds received into Dundee FC in the Community Trust. This would save the club (FPS) having to bankroll the Dundee FC in the Community Trust.
    The club only have a community trust as the were forced to set up it by the SPFL and the club were late in setting up our community trust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    Its easier to moan on here.

    Takes little effort.

    And saves you paying £5 per year. It is like members of staff who thanks to the local union get a pay increase but they are not a union member.

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    [QUOTE=deecom;39115623]Totally wrong, the A shares are the only protection the fans have to stop changes to club colours, amalgamations, etc,
    Not necessarily against Fps, but any unscrupulous owners.

    The A shares will not be sold, paragraphs may be altered to help business needs, but that's it.

    Remember Cardiff city, the blue birds, played in blue for about 100 years and a new owner came in and changed the colours to red !.
    The fans demonstrated against this, but there was nothing they could do to stop it.[/QUOTE
    Hi deecom,
    You are wasting your time trying to reason with posters like Taintedice as they will not listen to your views. However posters like Taintedice will be the first to complain if a merger is ever announced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    Hi Taintedice.
    If you had been present at last Saturday’s AGM you would have heard that when FPS purchased the A shares from the society they expected DFCSS to put the funds received into Dundee FC in the Community Trust. This would save the club (FPS) having to bankroll the Dundee FC in the Community Trust.
    The club only have a community trust as the were forced to set up it by the SPFL and the club were late in setting up our community trust.
    Wasny invited. Maybe DFCSS can donate the shares to the club, since they claim they support it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    Hi deecom,
    You are wasting your time trying to reason with posters like Taintedice as they will not listen to your views. However posters like Taintedice will be the first to complain if a merger is ever announced.
    Yeah ok, Dundee and United will merge the day after these shares end up with FPS, you've convinced me. without any evidence whatsoever. As for the views of DFCSS types on here, I'm afraid given the hostility you have towards the club's current owners, I will not be paying attention to any of them.

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    After two admins, Dundee fans are paranoid about any changes to the club ( eg, Gardyne meeting ) and rightly so.
    I like thousands of others, paid my pound & joined D 4 life.As a st holder, I still put my gate money into the buckets and other schemes like shaded's flag idea.
    When Dfcss adopted the SD 2016 rules which stated an annual charge, ( hence £5 ) , I paid my £5 because I knew the Dfcss still held the A shares, and the more members we had meant a greater chance of keeping them.
    With both clubs having American owners, amalgamation rumours were rife, and also well fuelled by DCT..
    I do not believe either FPS or DFCSS are lying, but the shares topic is not straight forward as it appears

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    Instead of sounding off on this forum join the society and say your piece.
    No....Dee mad is MY society😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    And saves you paying £5 per year. It is like members of staff who thanks to the local union get a pay increase but they are not a union member.
    Sorry Islay dfcss are NEVER 100% honest....I'll say again Dfcss represent dfcss

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    I very much doubt anyone but the paranoid/brain-washed/natural worriers amongst the DFCSS membership have worried about a merger with United, not since DFCSS started stirring it up for unknown reasons. Anyway, DFC Ltd will naturally survive as it possesses the Premiership share

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    No....Dee mad is MY society��
    Don't think Islay understands how politiking works on here

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    Its easier to moan on here.

    Takes little effort.
    And it's free

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    What a cheek.
    If I was making decisions on our club’s future I would be doing so for the long term benefit of Dundee FC not for the short term ownership by a company from across the pond who are likely to sell the new development in several years time to another property company or hedge fund.
    However I currently have a lot more to worry about such as the ‘NHS ticking time bomb’ which caused the death of my brother two years ago at the age of 56.
    It didn’t stop you refusing to discuss what was said at meeting , it’s my ball and your not getting to play !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    I very much doubt anyone but the paranoid/brain-washed/natural worriers amongst the DFCSS membership have worried about a merger with United, not since DFCSS started stirring it up for unknown reasons. Anyway, DFC Ltd will naturally survive as it possesses the Premiership share
    DFCSS 'stirred it up' by releasing a statement to its members the wording of which was agreed by the club did they?

    OK then.

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    My first post in a lot of years but am a daily viewer of this forum (actually forgot I had this login!)

    Firstly I’m a cynic in general and have no affiliation to either “side” in this debate.

    One question I would ask though on the likelihood of FPS using the A shares to effect a merger is, if you are building an asset and want tenants to pay the running costs of that asset as well as contributing to your pension pot/investment portfolio, would it not be sensible to have 2 mediocre tenants renting either side of ground with both these tenants generating revenue every week (even at average weekly crowds of 4,500-5,000) or have 1 “merged” tenant which may or may be successful and will not generate significant crowds for a generation?

    They are businessmen not football men, football is just a means to an end with a captive paying customer base they are looking at how to maximise revenue from this.

    Nelms is Keyes man on the ground so he’s going nowhere as they’ll not trust anyone else with their money (with good reason in Scottish football!). Unfortunately Nelms just isn’t very good at football decisions which is mainly what’s costing them at the moment.

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    Doh! not a great start this should’ve been in the other thread oops!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    DFCSS 'stirred it up' by releasing a statement to its members the wording of which was agreed by the club did they?

    OK then.
    3% of the fanbase notified, the rest left to wonder what was going on especially with the DFCSS statement being contradicted by the club. This has been going on for a year, not according to DFCSS, though. Why don't you just go collect your toys from the pavement and grow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    Why don't you just go collect your toys from the pavement and grow up.
    Oh dear.

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    Ignoring the substance of the post, again. Are you sure you're in the right place? "In January 2017, during a minuted meeting with the Supporters Society, the club owners informed the Society of their plan to acquire a 75%+ shareholding in the club through a share issue. ". No meeting minuted on the DFCSS website, yet again. Dishonest as ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    Ignoring the substance of the post, again. Are you sure you're in the right place? "In January 2017, during a minuted meeting with the Supporters Society, the club owners informed the Society of their plan to acquire a 75%+ shareholding in the club through a share issue. ". No meeting minuted on the DFCSS website, yet again. Dishonest as ever.
    You're either very naive or deliberately ignoring the obvious.

    Was this meeting a DFCSS board meeting or was it a club / FPS initiated meeting? Just because it was a meeting with the society it does not automatically make it a DFCSS board meeting. The meeting is stated by the club / FPS as having been minuted, leads me to think that this was probably a club / FPS meeting rather than a DFCSS board meeting - although obviously this was not made clear in the statement. Why would the board of DFCSS take and publish a minute of someone else's meeting to which one or more of their number may have been invited? Are the club / FPS offering to show the minutes if this meeting? Didn't think so.

    DFCSS are required to minute their board meetings and the minutes of any related committees and nothing else. And yet DFCSS are completely in the wrong for not publishing the minutes of a meeting that they probably had no requirement to keep minutes of?

    Club / FPS say something was said in a minuted meeting but fail to say where and when it was held or who was in attendance (other than 'the supporters' society') but are automatically to be believed?

    Seriously?
    Last edited by Deeranged; 15-01-2019 at 09:54 PM.

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    Not bothered reading your post, you've made it clear you want FPS gone, and DFCSS back in, is that the plan? There is a statement on the club website which contradicts the DFCSS statement. Look forward to DFCSS clarifying their statement.

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