O/T Labour

[magpie_mania]

Chequers is NOT 'leaving the EU'.
Chequers is NOT 'leaving'
Chequers is 'Remain'.


Arrrrrrrrghhhh. Can't you see this?!!!!!

You mean it's not leaving in your opinion, or with your requirements. Even prominent Brexiteers are starting to come round to it.

So what would leaving mean to you?

[forwardmagpie]

You mean it's not leaving in your opinion, or with your requirements. Even prominent Brexiteers are starting to come round to it.

So what would leaving mean to you?

For me a better deal than Chequers or no deal.

[TheBlackHorse]

..Remain is not a vote to continue with the status quo. The EU commission is on a path towards a federal state of Europe.
Are you Remoaners telling me you want a Federal EU with no nation states; only a federation of regions (ie., divide and rule)?
Are you Remoaners telling me you want to join the Euro (sorry, Deutchmark by any other name)?
If the EU is such a hallowed institution why are the riots happening in France; and high youth unemployment in multiple countries, mostly southern Europe?
Why is there such certainty as to what will happen if we leave with No Deal, when it has not yet happened. WTO rules do not mean we are walking of a financial cliff. If people have that future knowledge please share the next Euro Millions winning numbers with me.
Why do we support artificially high farming prices based on EU subsidies?
NZ a small western country had high deficits and a courageous Labour Government removed all trade barriers and all govt subsidies overnight. It was brutal but now NZ runs surpluses and the NZ farmers do not receive any subsidies and are the lowest cost producers. It takes leadership and courage.
Essentially, the continuation of the EU and the continued destruction of democratic principles is wholly reliant upon children not reading literature which might enable them to think for themselves and for them to not have access to unvarnished truth.
As the Roman leaders knew only too well, all that is needed to dumb down the masses is to limit standards of education and ensure a good supply of cake and circuses. By chance we now have continued falling standards in literacy and numeracy but plenty of television soaps, football and supermarkets full of low-priced food.
Then of course, due to politically cultivated terrorist activity and increased crime in general, which has become almost beyond the control of our much-reduced police forces, the officers of which are now armed to the teeth. A level of fear is maintained throughout, assisted by a politicised judiciary so often accused of metering out greater punishment to the victims of crime than it does to the perpetrators, thus minimising the fear of justified civil unrest, mass insurrection or lawful rebellion ... and surprise surprise ... police and armed forces on stand-by for 29th March.
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[dam617]

You mean it's not leaving in your opinion, or with your requirements. Even prominent Brexiteers are starting to come round to it.

So what would leaving mean to you?

What it said on Cameron's taxpayer-funded £7000000 leaflet.
Out of Single Market. Out of Customs Union.

Airbus the latest addition to Project Fear who received €64 million in the last 5 years from the EU.
No ones buying their planes either , no doubt 'due to uncertainty over Brexit'

[BigFatPie]

No idea if the Airbus chap means what he says,(I’m guessing he does), would have been nice if he’d spoken up during the referendum campaign though.

[JoePass]

What it said on Cameron's taxpayer-funded £7000000 leaflet.
Out of Single Market. Out of Customs Union.

Airbus the latest addition to Project Fear who received €64 million in the last 5 years from the EU.
No ones buying their planes either , no doubt 'due to uncertainty over Brexit'

Gutted

[Elite_Pie]

Chequers is NOT 'leaving the EU'.
Chequers is NOT 'leaving'
Chequers is 'Remain'.


Arrrrrrrrghhhh. Can't you see this?!!!!!

No, I can't see this at all. The Chequers agreement means that we leave the EU but maintain close links. For those who repeatedly say "The people have spoken" and "We must enact the will of the people", this is surely the perfect deal. It is the closest you will ever get to fairly and democratically representing a 52/48 vote split.

Are you really saying "The people have spoken" and "We must enact the will of the people", as long as they voted the same way as you?

[forwardmagpie]

No, I can't see this at all. The Chequers agreement means that we leave the EU but maintain close links. For those who repeatedly say "The people have spoken" and "We must enact the will of the people", this is surely the perfect deal. It is the closest you will ever get to fairly and democratically representing a 52/48 vote split.

Are you really saying "The people have spoken" and "We must enact the will of the people", as long as they voted the same way as you?

That seems a bit of a stupid argument, if it had been 52/48 the other way would we have come out of the EU a little bit to reflect the 48% who voted leave?

[magpie_mania]

What it said on Cameron's taxpayer-funded £7000000 leaflet.
Out of Single Market. Out of Customs Union.

Airbus the latest addition to Project Fear who received €64 million in the last 5 years from the EU.
No ones buying their planes either , no doubt 'due to uncertainty over Brexit'

So if we were to accept the deal, you are saying that we will still be in the single market and still in the customs union?

[Elite_Pie]

That seems a bit of a stupid argument, if it had been 52/48 the other way would we have come out of the EU a little bit to reflect the 48% who voted leave?

No, but the government should have taken on board that a lot of the country were not happy with the direction the EU were heading, and conducted any future negotiations to take their feelings into account.