o/t democracy is dead

[Pattylallacks2]

In fact, it quite often gets it wrong. On one infamous occasion Timothy Evans was hanged largely on the evidence of the actual murderer, Reg Christie.

[Shark27]

In fact, it quite often gets it wrong. On one infamous occasion Timothy Evans was hanged largely on the evidence of the actual murderer, Reg Christie.

Didn't realise DNA testing was around then. 1950s wasn't it?

[WanChaiMiller]

NB. As for democracy is dead, should there be a pass for a second vote we might as well rip up every law in the land. leave means leave and nothing else.

Of course leave means leave - but under what terms and conditions?

Should the terms be framed and judged by the ideological beliefs of Brexiteers or for the benefit of the whole country? Im part of the 16m that voted remain. Are you suggesting I have no say in the future of the new Britain?

For example, no deal to trade under WTO regs will cost UK companies that import from the EU multi £billions and surely close many down. Should we ignore these concerns and drive Brexit at any cost to suit brexiteers ideological belief?

[Pattylallacks2]

Didn't realise DNA testing was around then. 1950s wasn't it?

I was responding to the posting about the criminal justice system not always getting it right Sharky. As you say DNA was not known at the time of the Evans trial.

[great_fire]

"Except the USA"? This fact makes absolute nonsense of your argument. And by the way as well as capital punishment in the States, they also have state sponsored murder, by allowing every nut-job in the country to buy guns.

LOL we don't have the same gun laws as the USA though do we?

That makes a nonsense of your argument.

We could learn from Japan and Singapore when it comes to crime, not the other way round.

You think they should scrap the death penalty, maybe they should relax their immigration policies as well, let it a few million from the third world?

[great_fire]

We can't bring it back while we are in the EU but once we have left we could, be worse than the Brexit debate.

Yes I think they should probably wait a few years before opening another can of worms.

[gm_gm]

If not foolproof, then innocent people can still be executed

The same evidence is used for sentencing, therefore we have innocent people in the slammer. Does that mean let everyone off in case we make a mistake

[HerbieCobbler]

The same evidence is used for sentencing, therefore we have innocent people in the slammer. Does that mean let everyone off in case we make a mistake

Can't argue with that.

[KerrAvon]

I can. Sally Clark was eventually cleared on appeal and released (albeit terribly damaged by her ordeal). To state the obvious, that couldn't have happened if she had been hung.

[great_fire]

Yes but there are probably many more cases of murderers being released and committing murders again.