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Thread: DFCSS rears its ugly head again

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdfc View Post
    Don’t know who he is, but he comes across as intelligent and seems to know his stuff, the four posters seem to know what your all talking about, but seem to be holding back
    I honestly wouldn't bother with a guy who is so deluded about what DFCSS is, that anyone who criticises them is an Arab in disguise, most ridiculous thing I've read on here. 99% of the fanbase must be Arabs, according to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    I'd like to see it spent on DFC. I'm not privy to the full workings of DFCSS but it is very common for the firm that does the audit to carry out the accountancy work needed to take an accurate book keeping record and turn it into the format that is required by law. There is also the benefit of having a professional accountancy firm using their expertise and reputation to endorse the figures. I thought you had made a joke, you used a smiley emoji at the end of your original post so I didn't worry, but the comment was taken seriously and we are where we are.
    If you think it's acceptable to spend thousands of pounds on accountancy fees instead of good causes, that's great. Let's not forget, DFCSS are as tinpot as it gets, £6k income, 130 members, half that at the AGM, wake-up.

    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    To be honest I don't remember any incident at the meeting where the FPS investment was accepted. It would be surprising if there had been a complete lack of passion at the meeting. The vote was clear cut and I don't believe that there is any credible and substantial desire by DFCSS to see the return of a fan based ownership. It seems a shame that there is not a positive relationship between FPS and DFCSS at board level.
    The Evening Telegraph reports that the 2 DFCSS directors were jeered. For your last sentence, reap as you sow. DFCSS have just taken the complete piss out of FPS over this shares thing, which should have been resolved 2 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    The ownership of the A shares is a fact of life and it seems to me that the restraints can be worked round with goodwill.
    The stadium project has been on the go for years, why don't DFCSS send a legal letter now, saying they won't interfere, are they expecting FPS to grovel to them? FPS will ignore them, rightly so. I doubt the manner in which DFCSS attained these protections will stand up in a court so no chance of them mounting a legal challenge to stop the project. Although wouldn't put it past them.

    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    You obviously know more about the personal opinions of two of the board members, the fact remains that the board consulted with their membership, an action which they were not duty bound to take. It generated a fair bit of comment and the majority of it seemed to me to be in favour of retaining the A shares while making clear that the new stadium plans would be supported. I don't think there were many who wanted the A shares to be given to FPS, or sold to FPS.
    DFCSS offered to sell the A-shares to FPS first, that is documented in the club statement, which you can choose to ignore if you wish.

    i think this is getting boring now, obviously you won't accept any criticism against them. Maybe you can change it up and tell me what's good about DFCSS, what they've done for the club and the local community? Shouldn't take long
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    If you think it's acceptable to spend thousands of pounds on accountancy fees instead of good causes, that's great. Let's not forget, DFCSS are as tinpot as it gets, £6k income, 130 members, half that at the AGM, wake-up.

    The Evening Telegraph reports that the 2 DFCSS directors were jeered. For your last sentence, reap as you sow. DFCSS have just taken the complete piss out of FPS over this shares thing, which should have been resolved 2 years ago.

    The stadium project has been on the go for years, why don't DFCSS send a legal letter now, saying they won't interfere, are they expecting FPS to grovel to them? FPS will ignore them, rightly so. I doubt the manner in which DFCSS attained these protections will stand up in a court so no chance of them mounting a legal challenge to stop the project. Although wouldn't put it past them.

    DFCSS offered to sell the A-shares to FPS first, that is documented in the club statement, which you can choose to ignore if you wish.

    i think this is getting boring now, obviously you won't accept any criticism against them. Maybe you can change it up and tell me what's good about DFCSS, what they've done for the club and the local community? Shouldn't take long
    They were the successor organisation from Dee4life and were the vehicle that was used to get DFC out of administration. That for me seems to be a meritorious achievement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    If you think it's acceptable to spend thousands of pounds on accountancy fees instead of good causes, that's great. Let's not forget, DFCSS are as tinpot as it gets, £6k income, 130 members, half that at the AGM, wake-up.

    The Evening Telegraph reports that the 2 DFCSS directors were jeered. For your last sentence, reap as you sow. DFCSS have just taken the complete piss out of FPS over this shares thing, which should have been resolved 2 years ago.

    The stadium project has been on the go for years, why don't DFCSS send a legal letter now, saying they won't interfere, are they expecting FPS to grovel to them? FPS will ignore them, rightly so. I doubt the manner in which DFCSS attained these protections will stand up in a court so no chance of them mounting a legal challenge to stop the project. Although wouldn't put it past them.

    DFCSS offered to sell the A-shares to FPS first, that is documented in the club statement, which you can choose to ignore if you wish.

    i think this is getting boring now, obviously you won't accept any criticism against them. Maybe you can change it up and tell me what's good about DFCSS, what they've done for the club and the local community? Shouldn't take long
    Let's take a 'scenario' where a request is received by DFCSS from FPS for an amount of money due to 'cash flow problems'. This would of course be paid without question and in order to save the face of FPS would be left out of published minutes. Only a scenario of course.

    Let's now say there are problems with the pitch, I don't know let's assume some pipes were to burst in the undersoil heating. Now let's consider that FPS approach DFCSS and ask for help paying for the repairs - of course the society would help. Again only a scenario of course.

    Now imagine for a second that FPS want to purchase a sculpture and they approach DFCSS and ask them to make the purchase on their behalf and effectively donate it to the club; of course they would do it. Again only a scenario.

    Now imagine just for a second that FPS would thank DFCSS for help in the above scenarios - no, that would just be ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    They were the successor organisation from Dee4life and were the vehicle that was used to get DFC out of administration. That for me seems to be a meritorious achievement.
    they did not get the club out of admin, either time. They allowed admin 2 to happen, obviously. There must be something else? Bought a funny wee statue for 12 grand? Surely there's something we can agree on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Let's take a 'scenario' where a request is received by DFCSS from FPS for an amount of money due to 'cash flow problems'. This would of course be paid without question and in order to save the face of FPS would be left out of published minutes. Only a scenario of course.

    Let's now say there are problems with the pitch, I don't know let's assume some pipes were to burst in the undersoil heating. Now let's consider that FPS approach DFCSS and ask for help paying for the repairs - of course the society would help. Again only a scenario of course.

    Now imagine for a second that FPS want to purchase a sculpture and they approach DFCSS and ask them to make the purchase on their behalf and effectively donate it to the club; of course they would do it. Again only a scenario.

    Now imagine just for a second that FPS would thank DFCSS for help in the above scenarios - no, that would just be ridiculous.
    Was that on Netflix or Amazon? FPS asked DFCSS if they could acquire some shares to help with their corporate governance. DFCSS ponced about for 2 years before refusing to help. Think that's something that actually happened instead of your irrelevances. Maybe if they hadn't spent 50k on accountants they could have helped with something. Of course, any money given by DFCSS would have been from DFCTV, when they were effectively stealing from the club?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Let's take a 'scenario' where a request is received by DFCSS from FPS for an amount of money due to 'cash flow problems'. This would of course be paid without question and in order to save the face of FPS would be left out of published minutes. Only a scenario of course.

    Let's now say there are problems with the pitch, I don't know let's assume some pipes were to burst in the undersoil heating. Now let's consider that FPS approach DFCSS and ask for help paying for the repairs - of course the society would help. Again only a scenario of course.

    Now imagine for a second that FPS want to purchase a sculpture and they approach DFCSS and ask them to make the purchase on their behalf and effectively donate it to the club; of course they would do it. Again only a scenario.

    Now imagine just for a second that FPS would thank DFCSS for help in the above scenarios - no, that would just be ridiculous.
    Sculpture 🤣🤣🤣

    Sorry cudnae help it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Sculpture ������

    Sorry cudnae help it.
    Couldnae think o' another description

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Couldnae think o' another description
    Curious....wud you be for a "rebranding" of dfcss?

    I know the answer maybe why shud they but hypothetically?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    Was that on Netflix or Amazon? FPS asked DFCSS if they could acquire some shares to help with their corporate governance. DFCSS ponced about for 2 years before refusing to help. Think that's something that actually happened instead of your irrelevances. Maybe if they hadn't spent 50k on accountants they could have helped with something. Of course, the money given by DFCSS would have been from DFCTV, when they were effectively stealing from the club?
    If you have a legal agreement, properly agreed between two parties, to show football on a particular channel, with an agreed percentage of the income going to each party, is it really theft to show that football and earn that money?

    Imagine another scenario where one of the parties withdraws from that agreement after the other party sets up the system and gets it running - and then decides to keep all the income for itself. I believe in such a circumstance that the wronged party would be well within its rights to drag the other party through the courts don't you?

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