Anti-semitism and the Labour Party

[1959_60]

I sometimes have a very pleasing orange tinge when we get a wind blowing off the sea and covering us with sand BT.

There has been an unholy alliance in the Labour party ever since Jezza took over - I am surprised that this hasn't happened before now. The trickle could quite easily become a flood and i really feel that Labour will not be in power for many years.
Most of the members (who have voting rights) are out and out lefties - and Britain will never vote for a party like that.

I get the feeling that Corbyn and his gang are very comfortable playing the role of the outraged opposition - like he has all his political life.
He realises that if he ever became PM then there would be no one else to get outraged about - and that's not his style.
But heres the Labour parties conundrum - who to replace him with? The make up of the membership makes it obvious that it would be someone very similar to Jezza. They simply wouldn't vote for a more centrist politician. And therefore Labour will continue to be unelectable.

Let's face it, if Labour are trailing in the polls despite this useless Government, then there is little hope for success in following the same plan.

[Altobelli]

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Anti-Semitism in the LP - keeps dropping on us like a bad apple....whats the confusion ?

Anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism

Debates about claims of anti-Semitism in Labour often involve Israel and another term, anti-Zionism.
Zionism is a political movement that supports the right of Jewish people to their own homeland in the land of their ancestors - modern-day Israel.
Some say "Zionist" can be used as a coded attack on Jewish people, while others say the Israeli government and its supporters are deliberately confusing anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism to avoid criticism.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45030552

some say this and some say that....it's a very cloudy area , meaning the mud slinging will continue until some mutual understanding is established - otherwise - each position will further diverge - unnecessarily - and that'll help noone but.....chaos.

How can that understanding to realized ?....would be a noteworthy achievement....being after some hours of research, i'm still left a little confused.....as, directly from those Living in Israel, they say - no they're not a Zionist....but then - it depends on what you mean by the word - if Zion is Jerusalem and your waiting for the Messiah - then Yes....but if your an Hassidic Jew then you'd be Anti-Zionist because there can be no state of Israel until the Messiah arrives - others will say - not really - because there's different rules for State and Nation....then there's yes - being a Zionist means being proud of your country - but then no, not a Zionist because that person considers themselves Israeli and no more.....Zionism is nationalist/extreme - and Yes...as one cannot be a Jew in Israel without being a Zionist....and Zionist is connected to the System and not connected to Judaism....Zionism is political, Judaism is Spiritual, they're not connected and doing so causes the problems, so you can be Zionist but not believe in Zionism.....but all Jews have Neshama, in that they belong to Israel, are all Zionists...but are not connected to Zionism, because it's a Political movement.
And so it goes - on and on - so even the Folk of Israel are very much split as to the meaning - butat least they seem to accept their differences....so what's even more confusing is why those here in England - who have some other idea amongst the many as to it's meaning - are given so much credence.....enough to label those that have even another idea....of this undefined wordings meaning - anti-semitic...?
So.....Isn't taking such hard line on a this deeply wavering context - bound to nurture irritation ?



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[The Bedlington Terrier]

Sinkov...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...CMP=GTUK_email

[sinkov]

Islamophobia, anti-Semitism hate speech and racism are endemic. It's 2019 and we still have such a long way to go to end opposition to the "others". Trump and his ilk are the enemy within, not the Jews.

Hate speech, hate crime, racism, victimhood, all lefty obsessions of yours BT, add in Trump Derangement Syndrome, from which you suffer as all good lefties must, and this is what it leads to.

https://unherd.com/2019/02/when-did-...e-trump-truth/

[The Bedlington Terrier]

One demented Yank in no way represents the Labour Party's view on racism sinkov. Perhaps TIG are more representative of divided Britain?
Angela Smith who allegedly quit the Labour Party to form the ‘Independent Group’, citing racism as a major reason for her departure. By noon on the day of her resignation from the Labour Party, Smith was on live television and referred to people of colour as being “a funny tinge”. People of a "funny tinge" sinkov?
The Gang of Eleven cite Islamophobia, anti-Semitism, racism, Corbynism and any other "ism" for jumping ship and deserting their political parties.
Last night I trawled through the internet and social media and not one of these sensitive souls has ever defended Diane Abbott
from a stream of racist abuse and personal attacks. They have already become the usual suspects in disingenuity and hypocrisy and they haven't been going a week yet!

[sinkov]

Not really linking this to Labour's current malaise BT, it was more a general point, how many like that turd play the race card and get away with it ? Of course all the lefty media jumped in feet first, they always do, the real world doesn't often impinge on their virtue-signalling lefty bubble.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

The PC Brigade are everywhere sinkov. Snowflakes are not confined to us liberal lefties you know!

[1959_60]

Sorry to bring this issue up again, but Pam Bromley is currently sitting in the very same seat that I used to have in Whitewell ward on Rossendale Council.

If Labour are happy to have people like her in their ranks then to hell with them.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...anks-x3h807lph





And she is still at it. After she was let back into the Labour Party she said...



As in many places, a couple of long standing and well respected Labour councillors were deselected and replaced with two Momentum supporters in Rossendale for the upcoming council elections.