Reply With QuoteDon’t get me started with var
Soft penalty but the player did look and could’ve moved his arm in instead of out.
Jury’s out.
What was laughable was the Lino didn’t flag for offside a few times which were obvious and went to var , ****ing useless
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Sorry for being a day late but just catching up and if that's what VAR gives you then I'm at a loss for words!
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Don’t get me started with var
Soft penalty but the player did look and could’ve moved his arm in instead of out.
Jury’s out.
What was laughable was the Lino didn’t flag for offside a few times which were obvious and went to var , ****ing useless
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No surprise the biggest club in the world gets a decision for them.
It was similar to the Vaulks one against Swansea.
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You saying cheating by officials?Originally Posted by Pocket rocket
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In Fifa's Laws of the Game 2005, Law 12 says a free-kick or penalty will be awarded if a player "handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)".
Page 67 of the document gives "additional information for referees, assistant referees and fourth officials".
It adds: "Referees are reminded that deliberately handling the ball is normally punished only by a direct free-kick or penalty kick if the offence occurred inside the penalty area.
"A caution or dismissal is not normally required."
However, the document fails to describe what constitutes deliberate handball, which places the responsibility firmly on the referee and referees' assistants.
Former Premier League referee David Elleray said the referee's interpretation depends on whether the hand or arm is in an "unnatural" position at the point of contact.
"Referees look at two specifics - did the hand or arm go towards the ball or in a manner which would block the ball, or is the hand in a position where it would not normally be?" Elleray told BBC Sport."The challenging decisions are if the defending player spreads their arms to make themselves bigger.
"If the ball hits the arm then the referee must decide whether this action was to deliberately block the ball or whether the player has raised their arms to protect themselves - especially if the ball is hit at speed."
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Head of Uefa referees Robert Rossetti told the Times in January that - when VAR was introduced into this season's Champions League - officials would penalise any unnatural arm movement that makes contact with the ball.
"The big challenge is the position of the arm. When the arm is totally out of the body above the shoulder it should be penalised. If the defender is making the body bigger in order to block the ball it is not fair.
"It is different if the defender is challenging or playing the ball and it rebounds. But if he is looking to block a cross or a shot on goal and the player is trying to spread his body then it is a handball."
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At the weekend, Ifab - football's law-makers - said handball will be given against a player if their arms extend "beyond a natural silhouette" - even if it is accidental.
Ifab chief David Elleray explained: "If the arms are extended beyond that silhouette then the body is being made unnaturally bigger, with the purpose of it being a bigger barrier to the opponent or the ball.
"Players should be allowed to have their arms by their side because it's their natural silhouette."
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Not cheating just gullible 😆You saying cheating by officials?
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So basically when something is seen on VAR the final decision will still be down to the interpretation of the rules
by a human being who may have a different perception to that of other human beings.
Is that progress then?
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“The big challenge is the position of the arm. When the arm is totally out of the body above the shoulder it should be penalised. If the defender is making the body bigger in order to block the ball it is not fair.”
So then to make sure players comply with this they have to jump like a demented punk pogo dancer, arms firmly strapped to their sides
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