Fan runs on pitch and punches player

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Being soft is one of the contributory factors in crime rates rising.

At least the guy pleaded guilty stopping the legal people earning money out of it

[BramleyMiller58]

Being soft is one of the contributory factors in crime rates rising.

At least the guy pleaded guilty stopping the legal people earning money out of it

Think the presence of 26000 + in the stadium and the TV viewers may well have influenced his decision to not plead innocent :-)

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

True but usually they play the diminished responsibility card or claim they have some sort of syndrome.

[Silly-miller]

Phil Neville thinks a point deduction or play games behinds doors.

Don’t agree tbh, yes something needs doing but why point deduction for club just because of one idiot, why the hell should the rest of fans suffer because of one idiot?

Maybe more stewards that can do a job instead of them that just stand there.

Another thing is when a player leaves the pitch to celebrate a goal then it’s ayellow isn’t it? maybe when they jump over the advertisement boards and into the crowd it should be a straight red

Look at page 2 on my previous post it may have been 1 fan but the crowd cheered him for doing it. That’s hardly innocent

[KerrAvon]

Being soft is one of the contributory factors in crime rates rising.

At least the guy pleaded guilty stopping the legal people earning money out of it

I don't think the Birmingham court was being soft. But for the context, this was a minor assault, but it drew half of the maximum sentence. If you want long sentences for this sort of thing you need to work out how you are going to fund the prison beds that you will need.

Your second point is based upon a (boring and predictable) misunderstanding of how legal aid works. It is mostly based upon a system of fixed fees, so the fewer hearings the better. Picking up a fee for a case that you can deal with in a day is a result for the lawyer concerned.

[KerrAvon]

True but usually they play the diminished responsibility card or claim they have some sort of syndrome.

What is it that makes you post so much cobblers, Jolly?

[Brin]

Not sure if it's already been mentioned but, he was already banned for life from Birmingham's ground for previous trouble. Surely this should have been taken into consideration before sentencing him? Clearly in breach of the ban, he still gets himself inside and commits the assault.

14 weeks, way too lenient. Thing is if the cell space was available, he may have got more time. Like Kerr says, it all boils down to costs etc keeping someone inside these days. The jails are overflowing to max capacity and idiots like this takes one up. Can't see the point of tagging him because if he were to breach this, he'd be sent back inside. Might as well just send him down now.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Not sure if it's already been mentioned but, he was already banned for life from Birmingham's ground for previous trouble. Surely this should have been taken into consideration before sentencing him? Clearly in breach of the ban, he still gets himself inside and commits the assault.

14 weeks, way too lenient. Thing is if the cell space was available, he may have got more time. Like Kerr says, it all boils down to costs etc keeping someone inside these days. The jails are overflowing to max capacity and idiots like this takes one up. Can't see the point of tagging him because if he were to breach this, he'd be sent back inside. Might as well just send him down now.

We could always build more jails.

[Brin]

We could always build more jails.

Grist, apparently there's plans to build a brand new one adjacent to Full Sutton at York at a cost of £91 million. Thing is, the locals are completely against it due to high traffic volumes and fears of drug gangs moving into the area, as they feel that drugs etc may be thrown over the prison walls.

That's a lot of money but we do need more prisons. Why not buy all the properties on the Isle of Wight and make it an island prison where it's a free for all for prisoners to fend for themselves? Bit like Escape from New York - Snake Pliskin style. That would make them think twice about offending.

[mellowmiller]

I don't think the Birmingham court was being soft. But for the context, this was a minor assault, but it drew half of the maximum sentence. If you want long sentences for this sort of thing you need to work out how you are going to fund the prison beds that you will need.

Your second point is based upon a (boring and predictable) misunderstanding of how legal aid works. It is mostly based upon a system of fixed fees, so the fewer hearings the better. Picking up a fee for a case that you can deal with in a day is a result for the lawyer concerned.

They get beds? Wow, the justice system is even softer than I thought 😉.