What needs to change at Dundee United

[An old shed boy]

Good op by the way.

I think what needs to change may already have changed, it's just we're not seeing the results from it yet.

We have a new owner who is experienced in business and experienced in the sports business. It is very likely he is used to winning and achieving his objectives.

He will be looking not just at the results but also at the very poor poor quality of play on show. I would imagine it won't be long before he says to Robbie, hey if that's what you're serving up, if that's the best you can do with my investment in your player budget, time to move on buddy.

I think we can all accept defeat - even failure up to a point - if we're seeing good football being played by the team.

I think you have a valid point.
Much will depend on how we don’t come up (assuming we don’t).
If we don’t reach the play off final then I’d expect MO to seriously consider Robbie’s position.
It might not be what the supporters want but as you say he’s a businessman.

[stokearab]

I think you have a valid point.
Much will depend on how we don’t come up (assuming we don’t).
If we don’t reach the play off final then I’d expect MO to seriously consider Robbie’s position.
It might not be what the supporters want but as you say he’s a businessman.

Cheers. I think the support all want Robbie to be successful. I dont see any posts saying time to go etc.
But.... It's in his hands. If he persists with a narrow 4231 that isn't working, if he is unable to coach the existing players into a skilful bright creative attacking unit, then ultimately if he gets a P45 it will be of his own doing.
Like I've said, I want him to succeed but already Ogren must be looking at the quality he's delivering and at least having wee nagging doubts.

[TerryTheTerror]

It's unrealistic to think a championship winning team can be built quickly. It's not impossible but we are the proof to the contrary.

[stokearab]

It's unrealistic to think a championship winning team can be built quickly. It's not impossible but we are the proof to the contrary.

I never said we should have a championship winning team by now Terry. With all due respect you need to read my posts properly. What I said was that the fans are entitled to see SIGNS by now that Robbie is coaching an attractive style of play that will create chances from open play.

[TerryTheTerror]

If you read carefully, I never said you did.

[stokearab]

If you read carefully aye whatever you say.

[TerryTheTerror]

If you read carefully aye whatever you say.

Touche.

[PortugueseFrank]

I don't think Ogren will give Robbie beyond October next season if we aren't right in the title chase. He won't want to underwrite a further season in the Championship for season 20/21 and that might make him blink if we aren't looking good.

The title is gone. Robbie has one priority in my mind between now and season's end: get this team mentally prepared for the pressure they'll face in the play-offs.

It's the biggest weakness we have, even beyond tactics.

Take the players on team building pish, bring in a sports psychologist NOW to work with the players with a view towards 8th May (If we finish 3rd or 4th) or 15th May if we hold 2nd.

We can't waste time hoping the squad will come good. The mental weakness issue is clear as day. We've got to act on it.

We've 8 or 9 weeks to get ready.

Get the shrinks in now.

[NostradamusArab]

I don't think Ogren will give Robbie beyond October next season if we aren't right in the title chase. He won't want to underwrite a further season in the Championship for season 20/21 and that might make him blink if we aren't looking good.

The title is gone. Robbie has one priority in my mind between now and season's end: get this team mentally prepared for the pressure they'll face in the play-offs.

It's the biggest weakness we have, even beyond tactics.

Take the players on team building pish, bring in a sports psychologist NOW to work with the players with a view towards 8th May (If we finish 3rd or 4th) or 15th May if we hold 2nd.

We can't waste time hoping the squad will come good. The mental weakness issue is clear as day. We've got to act on it.

We've 8 or 9 weeks to get ready.

Get the shrinks in now.

F ucking bang on!

[stokearab]

I don't think Ogren will give Robbie beyond October next season if we aren't right in the title chase. He won't want to underwrite a further season in the Championship for season 20/21 and that might make him blink if we aren't looking good.

The title is gone. Robbie has one priority in my mind between now and season's end: get this team mentally prepared for the pressure they'll face in the play-offs.

It's the biggest weakness we have, even beyond tactics.

Take the players on team building pish, bring in a sports psychologist NOW to work with the players with a view towards 8th May (If we finish 3rd or 4th) or 15th May if we hold 2nd.

We can't waste time hoping the squad will come good. The mental weakness issue is clear as day. We've got to act on it.

We've 8 or 9 weeks to get ready.

Get the shrinks in now.

How many shrinks do you think Jurgen Klopp employs? How many shrinks do you think Fergie employed.


Good coaches don't need shrinks much because they're able to motivate the players themselves. That's what good coaches are capable of. If we need to turn to psychologists for the players in this situation we are more f$%#ed than I thought.

Ps we don't have 8 or 9 weeks to get ready. We're not in the play offs just yet.