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Thread: Big Day in Parliament

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    At a CLP meeting in Bolton last night Sir David Crausby MP for Bolton North East when asked why Parliament would not implement a democratically voted Brexit he replied, "What is democracy?" Just to remind ALL of our elected Members of Parliament: Democracy means government by the people; we live in the United Kingdom where the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system. Not by one woman who seems hellbent on destroying our nation by not respecting the will of the people, nor by elected MP's who ignore the wishes of those who elected them.
    They seem oblivious to the fact BT, that they are MPs only by our consent. A lot of them are going to have a rude awakening at the next General Election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    They seem oblivious to the fact BT, that they are MPs only by our consent. A lot of them are going to have a rude awakening at the next General Election.
    Indeed they fhooking are sinkov, indeed they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    They seem oblivious to the fact BT, that they are MPs only by our consent. A lot of them are going to have a rude awakening at the next General Election.
    It will be of no consequence to them by then.They will all have their cushy number jobs lined up either in the EU or in the public sector.The whole democratic system in the UK is a scam and has been for the last 80-90 years.The only good thing to come out of Brexit so far is that it is now blatantly obvious not just a conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaretinBudapest View Post
    It will be of no consequence to them by then.They will all have their cushy number jobs lined up either in the EU or in the public sector.The whole democratic system in the UK is a scam and has been for the last 80-90 years.The only good thing to come out of Brexit so far is that it is now blatantly obvious not just a conspiracy theory.
    True Buda...and the scam is....that the System knows well that those we put there to work for us - when they encounter the reality as they stare into the abyss and see no end....for the most, dont have the strength to fight free and "battle to it's end"....so time and again it repeats, then just ends up drifting and shackled in the distant and worthless shlit trail of this crimminal mafia monster called Government.
    Well, now is out in the open for "all" to see...so essential to take the inititiative - finally put an end to this marauding mind manipulating movement of mania mockery and madness....otherwise.....we, may as well hand them the master key and sign our selves into perpetual slavery.




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    What will the House of Fools do next? Government of the people, by the people, for the people? We had a vote to say leave the EU. Why has it not been respected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by outwoodclaret View Post
    What will the House of Fools do next? Government of the people, by the people, for the people? We had a vote to say leave the EU. Why has it not been respected?

    I think the simple answer Outwood is that we don't count, we don't matter. The establishment, the elite, the political class all do very nicely out of the EU, and that's the way they are determined it will stay, whatever the rest of us might think about it.

    Remember the uproar and abuse Cameron got when he announced the referendum, there was a clue back then, the Establishment were appalled that he should even have thought about asking our opinion, there was no chance of them ever acting on it, if it didn't concur with their own.

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    BT - can you tell me what Labours policy on Brexit actually is?

    Your leader is pushing for his own version of Brexit.

    Yesterday your deputy leader told us at the march that Labour supported a Peoples Vote with Theresa's deal or remain on the ballot.

    Confused of Morecambe.

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    The blind are definitely leading the blind up whichever blind alley suits their purpose ---regardless of how it pans out for us mortals!
    The vote was to leave, the date was set as 29 March 2019 which is 5 days away so what is the problem? Politicians ---of all parties!
    They vote against a deal, they vote against no deal and blithely ignore the fact that the people voted to leave and expect to leave on Friday.

    I voted to remain, accepted that I was on the losing side and have sat back in amazement that, after 1000 days, we are still fannying on!
    It is a good jpb that Churchll didn't take that long to decide on the evacuation of Dunkirk ---we certainly wouldn't even be thinking of leaving the EU or bothering about our sovereignty.

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    Not our finest hour Super.

    Originally Theresa thought that whatever she agreed with the EU would not be subject to Parliamentary approval - that was overturned by a legal challenge - otherwise we would be leaving this Friday with her Chequers plan.

    Such is the magnitude of the issue, I think it should have been decided by a cross party group, akin to the wartime coalition. Certainly not by a single persons ideas.

    Now it looks like we will probably have a further 1/2 years of argy bargy - and that is before the main discussions take place at the end of it - probably another few years.

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    1959_60 --I have to agree. I said right from the start that, once Cameron resigned to leave Theresa in the lurch to sort things out, she should have insisted that an all-party committee be formed to deal with all aspects to ensure that we left on 29 March with the minimum of fuss. The fact that this did not happen was her biggest mistake as far as I am concerned and does beg the question as whether or not she and many other MPs were intent on leaving as per the vote which was cast.

    The shambles within her own party, the total lack of any real comprehensible plans which Labour seem to have, the constant posing of the SNP, the reliance on the DUP plus your own Lib Dems just seeming to be intent on having another vote has meant that we have wasted 1000 days and are still in a situation where nobody is near certain when, or if, Brexit will ever take place.

    As the late Bertrand Russell said:- "Nothing is so exhausting as indecision, and nothing is so futile."

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