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  1. #21
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    Balam, I am not disputing what you say.

    And I am not disputing what the Palestinians say.

    The problem is that both sides are totally entrenched in their views. They cannot see fault on their own side. There is no trust, goodwill or respect for each other.

    At least this is true at Government level. I have no doubt that the majority of Israelis and Palestinians just yearn for peace and to get along with each other. Their leaders won't let them.

    At the moment the position is that Israel can do what the hell it likes and Palestine is completely powerless to do anything about it. It seems to me that the Israeli end game is to make Palestine completely non viable.

    And I agree that the UN is just a worthless talking shop on this and most other issues.

    At the end of the day I think most people on both sides realise that both peoples are just ordinary human beings - and neither is a superior group - except the resources available to each are vastly unfair.

    The diagram below shows clearly how Palestine is shrinking and israel is expanding over the years.


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    ''The Palestinians are constantly having their land nicked and can only offer token resistance. Like I said, David versus Goliath.''


    Actually, Israeli sovereignty over Judea and Samaria is enshrined into international law.
    By: Daniel Horowitz | December 27, 2016
    The notion that there is any moral equivalence between Jews building homes in their homeland that they won back in a defensive war (after it was illegally occupied by Jordan) and brutal terrorists illegally occupying land that was never given to them, is reprehensible. But first, a brief history lesson …
    The only binding resolution of international law, a resolution which has never been countermanded to this very day, is the July 1922 Mandate for Palestine. Adopted by the League of Nations, that resolution recognized the “historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.” It called for the creation of a Jewish national homeland anywhere west of the Jordan River.
    Once the League of Nations was disbanded and the United Nations formed in its stead, the international community agreed to maintain all agreements and not “alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments to which Members of the United Nations may respectively be parties.” [Article 80, UN Charter, emphasis added] This provision wasn’t inserted by accident; it was known as “the Jewish People’s clause” at the time it was adopted in 1945 in order to enshrine the 1922 Mandate into international law.
    The Mandate for Palestine adopted by the League of Nations was the last legally binding document delineating regional borders. In Article 5 of the Mandate it explicitly states “The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that no Palestine territory shall be ceded or leased to, or in any way placed under the control of the Government of any foreign Power.”
    The Palestine Mandate (and Iraq) was given to Britain to serve as a temporary trustee based on the resolution between the four principle Allied Powers in April 1920 at the San Remo Conference in Italy, which was signed by 51 nations. It was at that conference where the world powers adopted the 1917 Balfour Declaration (which originally allocated the eastern part of the Mandate for a Jewish state as well) creating a Jewish state. This same conference that created the Jewish state west of the Jordan River also created Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Iraq as Arab states.
    The legality of the 1922 Mandate was adopted that same year by the U.S. Congress in H.J. Res. 360 and signed by President Warren Harding. The newly created Arab country of Jordan attacked Israel in 1948 seeking to annihilate its inhabitants and illegally occupied Judea and Samaria until 1967. That year, Israel won back the territory originally allocated for a Jewish State as part of the 1922 League of Nations agreement.
    There is no such thing as “’pre-67 borders.” They were merely 1949 armistice lines between Israel and neighboring countries after they launched an illegal war of extermination. It has nothing to do with the notion of a unique Arab “Palestinian” entity west of the Jordan River. There was never any internationally recognized legal sovereign occupying Judea and Samaria from the time the British Empire fell until 1967. Jordan’s occupation of the area west of the Jordan River was never recognized. To the extent there is an Arab Palestinian state it is the modern state of Jordan, which already sucked up 77% of the original Mandate of Palestine allocated for a Jewish State under the first plan of the Balfour Declaration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    How many Palestinian kids did they kill this time Balan?
    Very cheap shot BT and not worthy of you

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueheeler1 View Post
    Very cheap shot BT and not worthy of you
    The statistics from innumerable independent sources don't lie blueheeler1. Cheap shots are when the IDF use Palestinian nurses, kids and journalists for live target practice. https://electronicintifada.net/blogs...el-killed-2017
    Last edited by The Bedlington Terrier; 16-03-2019 at 08:59 AM.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Balanbam00 View Post
    When will they ever learn?

    ISRAEL STRIKES 100 GAZA TARGETS AFTER HAMAS AIMS ROCKETS AT TEL AVIV.

    IDF warplanes, combat helicopters and aircraft attacked some 100 terrorist targets of the Hamas terrorist organization throughout the Gaza Strip overnight and Friday morning, according to the IDF spokesperson.

    Among the terrorist targets was the offices of the Hamas headquarters in the Rimal neighborhood in central Gaza City.

    The headquarters is responsible for directing terrorist operatives of the Hamas terrorist organization in Judea and Samaria by carrying out terror attacks, building terrorist infrastructures, transmitting terrorist activity directives, transferring money and responding to terrorist attacks against Israel and Israeli citizens.


    When will they ever learn?
    When will the IDF stop slaughtering them..?

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...843576945.html

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    Your looking at various very biased sources BT

    ''When will the IDF stop slaughtering them..?''

    Its very simple BT - - - when the rockets stop and they recognise Israel's right to exist


    ...and have you seen any where palestinians say we want to share ? No ,it's we want to liberate our lands ( to take all )

  7. #27
    Sorry Balan, but the Israelis are in the process of committing casual genocide. Soon the "Palestinian problem" will have gone away. Sound familiar?

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    B T : If you google : Latest protests in Gaza.

    Aljazeera reports how many have been killed in the protest march since protests began on March 30.

    Yes but why did the chicken cross the road ? Ha ha ....To read the truth:
    Maybe the west does not want to show its readers about the truth in Gaza??

    Times of Israel
    'Palestinian self-immolates on 3rd day of Gaza protests against Hamas.' As a man set himself alight during a third day of demonstrations in Gaza against the terror group and the dire economic conditions in the enclave.

    i24news.tv:
    Hamas stages its own protest, putting the blame on the Palestinian Authority for worsening economic conditions. Haaretz : Gazans Take to the Streets in Rare Protest Against High Cost of Living,

    ynet:
    Hamas detains rights workers as it disperses Gaza protests.
    Online videos show Hamas forces raiding homes, attacking protesters with clubs and firing into the air.
    During the demonstrations, at least 80 Fatah members were arrested by the Hamas operatives, who also apprehended journalists, as well as human rights activists monitoring the events.

    Jerusalem post:
    PALESTINIAN GAZA RESIDENT SET HIMSELF ON FIRE IN PROTEST OVER HAMAS RULE The man publicly set himself on fire after he was evicted from his flat when he was unable to pay rent.

    https://electronicintifada.net = No news ??

    Western news media - No news ??

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    I can't really comment on what you're posting BT, there is absolutely no point in using propaganda sheets like the Grauniad and Al Jazeera for any information regarding Israel and the Palestinians, none of it is reliable, most of it is drivel, so I don't waste my time reading it. You might as well ask that bloke in his bungalow in Solihull, the BBC and Grauniad take all his tripe as gospel as well, just because he calls himself the Syrian Human Rights Observatory or something.

    I still remember those photos you posted showing some hospital or community centre that the IDF had allegedly destroyed. Both purporting to be the same building, but both clearly different buildings. Truth is the first casualty of war BT, you should know better than to let your predjudice over ride basic commom sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Sorry Balan, but the Israelis are in the process of committing casual genocide. Soon the "Palestinian problem" will have gone away. Sound familiar?
    Are they phook.. The Israelis are doing the right think keeping the Palestinians in check ..They would be genocide if the Phooking ragheads were given the chance to wipe out the Israelis..

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