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Thread: The Next Vote

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    The Next Vote

    May's deal is dead in the water so the next vote for our parliamentary representatives should be a simple binary choice.

    Leave on the March 29th

    Revoke Article 50 and remain in the E.U.

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    We’ve had a vote.

    Are we just going to vote until we get the result you remainers want?

    Democracy my a r se !

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    We’ve had a vote.

    Are we just going to vote until we get the result you remainers want?

    Democracy my a r se !
    A bit like the comic 'Fergie Time' banner....'Until we score'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9goals2hattricks3pen View Post
    May's deal is dead in the water so the next vote for our parliamentary representatives should be a simple binary choice.

    Leave on the March 29th

    Revoke Article 50 and remain in the E.U.
    The Leave or Remain vote has already been taken. It was a binary choice. The UK decided to leave.

    The only vote left is for MP's to take depending if Bercow allows the vote to take place.

    That is also a binary choice. Accept or reject the Withdrawal Treaty. There is only one Treaty. Nowhere does it state Remain.

    If Mp's reject the Treaty or Bercow stops the vote. Its all over.
    Parliament could try to Revoke Art 50 but the Treaties that bind us to the Art 50 process. Cease to exist on 29th March. This means a whole raft of votes and motions to replace what has already been repealed.It will also need to be ratified by the HOL and require Royal assent.
    In other words. It would take months to Revoke Art 50 and even then. It would require support in both UK Parliament and EU Parliament.
    On top of that. It would require another Referendum or a General Election. In addition to that. It would require an extension which has not been agreed and would also require the UK to field candidates for European Elections.
    Revoking Art50 is an absolute quagmire.
    Give it up guys. Its all over. Now is the time for acceptance.
    Last edited by BaldricksCunningPlan; 22-03-2019 at 02:49 PM.

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    Bercow hasn’t the power to stop the voting.

    The government can get around this in various ways.

    If this vote had gone the opposite way you lot would’ve been telling Leavers to shut up and let it drop.

    You’re embarrassing yourselves by trying to get a second vote.

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    Why didn’t all you remainers vote Liberal Democrat last time around?

    Surely if you wanted to stay “In” then this would’ve given you a better chance?

    It seems illogical to me that you’d vote for the two main parties in you wanted to “Remain” considering their manifesto pledges to fulfill the “Leave” vote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9goals2hattricks3pen View Post
    May's deal is dead in the water so the next vote for our parliamentary representatives should be a simple binary choice.

    Leave on the March 29th

    Revoke Article 50 and remain in the E.U.
    This is a sensible solution,

    Unfortunately we live in unsensible times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaldricksCunningPlan View Post
    The Leave or Remain vote has already been taken. It was a binary choice. The UK decided to leave.

    The only vote left is for MP's to take depending if Bercow allows the vote to take place.

    That is also a binary choice. Accept or reject the Withdrawal Treaty. There is only one Treaty. Nowhere does it state Remain.

    If Mp's reject the Treaty or Bercow stops the vote. Its all over.
    Parliament could try to Revoke Art 50 but the Treaties that bind us to the Art 50 process. Cease to exist on 29th March. This means a whole raft of votes and motions to replace what has already been repealed.It will also need to be ratified by the HOL and require Royal assent.
    In other words. It would take months to Revoke Art 50 and even then. It would require support in both UK Parliament and EU Parliament.
    On top of that. It would require another Referendum or a General Election. In addition to that. It would require an extension which has not been agreed and would also require the UK to field candidates for European Elections.
    Revoking Art50 is an absolute quagmire.
    Give it up guys. Its all over. Now is the time for acceptance.
    HoL have a remain majority, Royal assent is a quick process just for traditional reasons, that won't interfere with the decision making of Hoc or HoL. The EU would rather us be a member than not be, so if parliament revoked article 50, it would actually be a relatively simple process.

    The hard thing would be if we were to hold another referendum, that would take months and months of planning. We should probably have been in this position a year or more ago so we could have held another referendum to ask people what they really wanted to happen before the March 29th deadline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    Why didn’t all you remainers vote Liberal Democrat last time around?

    Surely if you wanted to stay “In” then this would’ve given you a better chance?

    It seems illogical to me that you’d vote for the two main parties in you wanted to “Remain” considering their manifesto pledges to fulfill the “Leave” vote?
    Not really, many people voted Labour and in some cases Tory because thier MP was a staunch remainer and Lib Dems had no chance of winning in their constituency.

    You would probably have a better chance of 'remain' by backing a pro European Labour or Tory MP than by backing a Lib Dem candidate that wouldn't win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    We’ve had a vote.

    Are we just going to vote until we get the result you remainers want?

    Democracy my a r se !
    Something people should know when they talk about 'Democracy'

    We live in a constitution where our Parliament is sovereign. This means parliament has supreme legal authority over any other body in the UK.

    Last week parliament voted to reject a No Deal Brexit.

    That essentially means now that a No Deal Brexit is anti democratic.

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