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    Sheffield's loss of form

    One win in four (should have been one in five except that they luckily beat us)...apparently not playing well, and now with three key players out for at least the next few games (injured Basham and Sharp; red card ban for Egan).

    This coincides with our walking wounded all now healed. If I was looking from the outside, I'd be strongly backing Leeds right now. If we can win two (Wigan and Ipswich) and draw at least one of the last four games, then Sheffield will need to remain unbeaten...winning at least three of the four. That's a really tough ask for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flintadore View Post
    One win in four (should have been one in five except that they luckily beat us)...apparently not playing well, and now with three key players out for at least the next few games (injured Basham and Sharp; red card ban for Egan).

    This coincides with our walking wounded all now healed. If I was looking from the outside, I'd be strongly backing Leeds right now. If we can win two (Wigan and Ipswich) and draw at least one of the last four games, then Sheffield will need to remain unbeaten...winning at least three of the four. That's a really tough ask for them.
    Not so sure about how far they have dropped off in form. I've seen their last couple and they still looked quite sharp with the ball to me. Thought they looked the better team in both contests, so wouldn't go selling them short just yet! A couple of injuries from Saturday's game looks to be just as big an issue as form.

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    I dont think its productive or meaningful to analyze the form of Sheffield United. The bottom line is: if Leeds get 10 points in the last 4 matches, Leeds go up. If we dont get 10 points, it allows Sheffield United in with a chance to finish ahead of us. Just got to concentrate on our own matches. Try to catch Norwich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrypie7 View Post
    I dont think its productive or meaningful to analyze the form of Sheffield United. The bottom line is: if Leeds get 10 points in the last 4 matches, Leeds go up. If we dont get 10 points, it allows Sheffield United in with a chance to finish ahead of us. Just got to concentrate on our own matches. Try to catch Norwich.
    I think I've said before that I never see it that way Cherry. Naturally if we keep winning, it won't matter what Sheffield does. But.... I also said previously we would need a bit of assistance from others to get us over the line. We are now 3 points instead of 1 in front simply due to Millwall scoring late against Blunts! So Sheffield's form does concern us...IMO that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrypie7 View Post
    I dont think its productive or meaningful to analyze the form of Sheffield United. The bottom line is: if Leeds get 10 points in the last 4 matches, Leeds go up. If we dont get 10 points, it allows Sheffield United in with a chance to finish ahead of us. Just got to concentrate on our own matches. Try to catch Norwich.
    Funny thing, Cherry...back in January I was feeling bullish about us, but as the finishing line has gotten nearer...and nearer...and nearer, my bull has shrivelled to the size of a gnat. Right now, I'd accept us losing all of our last four games, so long as Sheffield can only draw two of theirs. Sure I'd be a basket case by the final whistle of the final game, but right now I just want us to finish second...so I fully agree that our form is most important, but the form of others is too...to gnat sized me anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrypie7 View Post
    I dont think its productive or meaningful to analyze the form of Sheffield United. The bottom line is: if Leeds get 10 points in the last 4 matches, Leeds go up. If we dont get 10 points, it allows Sheffield United in with a chance to finish ahead of us. Just got to concentrate on our own matches. Try to catch Norwich.
    100% agree. It's in our hands, and spending even a millisecond on considering what Sheffield or anyone else will do in their games is wasted effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    100% agree. It's in our hands, and spending even a millisecond on considering what Sheffield or anyone else will do in their games is wasted effort.
    Can recall you thanking Brum recently for drawing with Sheffield, hence putting it back in our hands? But you don't worry about other results then??? Yeah right....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozwhites View Post
    Can recall you thanking Brum recently for drawing with Sheffield, hence putting it back in our hands? But you don't worry about other results then??? Yeah right....
    Never miss a chance do you? Only there isn't one. I didn't "worry about other results", I commented on past history, on a result that did us a favour, emphasis on the past tense, as opposed to any concern about future events.

    Would I like Sheffield to foul up? Yes. Do I think anyone should be doing any work to establish if they will, or might? No. Ok pumpkin?

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    All your comments are well taken. The other point i tried to make but didnt clarify is that its virtually impossible to predict form these last few weeks. Sheffield united did not concede a goal in 7 matches then concede 3 at home to bristol city which is not a free scoring team. On our part we have bamford who has not put a shot on target from outside the box or with his head, scoring from 20 yards and heading home against Preston. He follows up with missing a sitter from 6 yards against wednesday. Speculating on form is just too tough. I can tell you that wigan have won 1 game all season away from home but that doesnt comfort me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrypie7 View Post
    All your comments are well taken. The other point i tried to make but didnt clarify is that its virtually impossible to predict form these last few weeks. Sheffield united did not concede a goal in 7 matches then concede 3 at home to bristol city which is not a free scoring team. On our part we have bamford who has not put a shot on target from outside the box or with his head, scoring from 20 yards and heading home against Preston. He follows up with missing a sitter from 6 yards against wednesday. Speculating on form is just too tough. I can tell you that wigan have won 1 game all season away from home but that doesnt comfort me.
    As with the previous post, spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrypie7 View Post
    All your comments are well taken. The other point i tried to make but didnt clarify is that its virtually impossible to predict form these last few weeks. Sheffield united did not concede a goal in 7 matches then concede 3 at home to bristol city which is not a free scoring team. On our part we have bamford who has not put a shot on target from outside the box or with his head, scoring from 20 yards and heading home against Preston. He follows up with missing a sitter from 6 yards against wednesday. Speculating on form is just too tough. I can tell you that wigan have won 1 game all season away from home but that doesnt comfort me.
    No problems with anything you say here. Dead right it is too difficult to predict! And probably why everything has to fall our way...just in case for some strange reason we don't win all 4 games!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    As with the previous post, spot on.
    Wasn't looking for a chance to dig at you. But you seem to be having an each way bet with this. We are now back in front of them...but a couple of games back we weren't. Was then out of our hands??? Please don't tell me you weren't worried about Blunts results also at that point?

    Truly remarkable human being... Can backtrack on any comment to find another meaning.for saying it!...haha. Always! Don't worry, I think I have seen enough responses to you from others on here to say I'm not alone in that opinion. Cheer up pal...hopefully we can all smile at the end of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozwhites View Post
    Wasn't looking for a chance to dig at you. But you seem to be having an each way bet with this. We are now back in front of them...but a couple of games back we weren't. Was then out of our hands??? Please don't tell me you weren't worried about Blunts results also at that point?

    Truly remarkable human being... Can backtrack on any comment to find another meaning.for saying it!...haha. Always! Don't worry, I think I have seen enough responses to you from others on here to say I'm not alone in that opinion. Cheer up pal...hopefully we can all smile at the end of this.
    In our hands, not in our hands, spending time pontificating and speculating about what others might or might not do is a waste of time and energy, never said anything contrary to that position. Not backtracking one bit, as there is nothing to backtrack from. We accept the results from other important matches just as we accept those in which Leeds play, some we like, some we don't but there is f00k all any of us can do about either and sure as hell no good in analysing who might or might not play in this match or that (unless they are direct competitors and we know how assiduous Bielsa in his analysis of opponents), it's a waste if time.

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    Wigan = fighting for survival so beware
    Ipswich = should have all but given up but may want to go out on a high so beware
    Brentford = safe and nothing to prove, should be a winner but they are still new to the league and would love to beat us so beware
    Aston Villa = hopefully safefully in the play offs when we meet them and saving their energy - but on form so BEWARE.

    Mr B and player four wins please and note no relying on anyone else dropping points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    In our hands, not in our hands, spending time pontificating and speculating about what others might or might not do is a waste of time and energy, never said anything contrary to that position. Not backtracking one bit, as there is nothing to backtrack from. We accept the results from other important matches just as we accept those in which Leeds play, some we like, some we don't but there is f00k all any of us can do about either and sure as hell no good in analysing who might or might not play in this match or that (unless they are direct competitors and we know how assiduous Bielsa in his analysis of opponents), it's a waste if time.
    You know what? I agree with what you are saying about not being able to do anything about other results!...and not worth dissecting! But my original point that you are swaying from is that they all do count...whether we want to acknowledge them or not! And that we shouldn't write off Sheffield...which was initially why I posted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozwhites View Post
    You know what? I agree with what you are saying about not being able to do anything about other results!...and not worth dissecting! But my original point that you are swaying from is that they all do count...whether we want to acknowledge them or not! And that we shouldn't write off Sheffield...which was initially why I posted!
    They all count, obviously, and I have never suggested we should "write off Sheffield", we can't and we shouldn't, but neither can we do anything about the results they might get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    They all count, obviously, and I have never suggested we should "write off Sheffield", we can't and we shouldn't, but neither can we do anything about the results they might get.
    Whatever.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozwhites View Post
    Whatever.....
    Yeah, whatever!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    100% agree. It's in our hands, and spending even a millisecond on considering what Sheffield or anyone else will do in their games is wasted effort.
    *******s to that I'll have my abacus out and be tuning into their games.

    It is bloody exciting and worrying about other teams makes it x1000 more fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joellufcprice View Post
    *******s to that I'll have my abacus out and be tuning into their games.

    It is bloody exciting and worrying about other teams makes it x1000 more fun.
    How dare you contradict the messiah....

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