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Thread: tony stewart losing credability

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    tony stewart losing credability

    all this talk of million pound players coming to rotherham. wanting to establish rotherham as a championship club.

    what a load of crap.

    he has one of the best English young managers outside of the premiership. (who I bet won't be with us by the end of next season)

    he had a glorious chance to actually back his words up in the January window and spend some money to keep us safe.

    but what happened?? for all the people saying how do you know he didn't approve a million pound player I ask how do you know he did.

    your telling me there is not 1 player we could of signed for 1 million plus who wouldnt improve us?? before you ask who I don't play fifa and I don't have agents phoning me up touting players to me.

    but I know if there was money to spend to actually improve the squad we could off.

    other teams did.

    yes the stadium he built that's a nice little investment for Tony Stewart isn't it. after all his company owns it not the football club.

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    Not sure where to start as a reply to that.
    A couple of thoughts....paying a Million pounds plus is the easy bit but the problem is they come with hefty 10,15.20k a week salaries and four year contract demands. That means it's a no go and rightly so.

    Having said that we've managed to acquire two million pounds plus players and they played today. One was subbed before he got a red card

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    We didn't have to spend a million pounds or pay silly wages. Just a couple of good loan signings in the Jan transfer window paying half their wages for 3 months or so until the end of the season. Maybe enough to see us stay up.

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    How do we no the money wasn't there for players, and the players. 1. Didn't want to come 2. Priced them selves out with silly wage demands 3. They got lured by a bigger club .For all we no TS could have said to Warne hes 3 million and he didn't get the right type of player . I am not happy with us going down if we do i think we have missed a good opportunity to build something here .Mistakes have been made again but we made a better job of it this time . Still a chance we will stay up .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stovicmiller View Post
    We didn't have to spend a million pounds or pay silly wages. Just a couple of good loan signings in the Jan transfer window paying half their wages for 3 months or so until the end of the season. Maybe enough to see us stay up.
    Stovic, leave it pal. Iíve brought this up before and been challenged over it. Your excellent point will fall on deaf ears 👂👂

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    Well, in January, WLB was praising Ipswich for bringing in 5 loan players.
    If only we could have turned our season round like they did.

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    Everyone knows my thoughts on TS so Iím not gonna start nailing my colours to the mast.

    What I will say is that only the people inside the club know what we have tried to do in the transfer market. Strange how this thread wasnít put on after the win at QPR or forest at home or even the draw at Stoke?

    All about opinions but to blame someone without knowing all the facts smacks of a bit of stupidity imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinkly View Post
    Well, in January, WLB was praising Ipswich for bringing in 5 loan players.
    If only we could have turned our season round like they did.
    Exactly. Bolton's and Ipswich's budgets eclipse ours and look how it's turned out for them.

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    Well Bolton and Ipswich failed because both of their managers aren't very good. Give Pw their funds and he would have acquired completely different players and improved us immensely

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    It didn't work for Ipswich but at least they made the effort. Who's to say it wouldn't have worked for the miller's.

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    After what's happened recently his heart might not be in it anymore, TBH I think his enthusiasm had already waned somewhat before that, he's certainly had a lower profile.

    Maybe time to sell?

    Has to be to the right person though.

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    Great fire to who ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stovicmiller View Post
    It didn't work for Ipswich but at least they made the effort. Who's to say it wouldn't have worked for the miller's.
    What effort ?
    Buy players who lack the quality needed

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    Maybe they did lack the quality needed but Ipswich still made the effort to retain championship football.

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    I think all Championship clubs have made the effort to retain their status. I think our efforts have been a bit more successful than those of Ipswich.

    I understand people's frustrations that we had so little activity in the January window. I also hoped we'd make a couple of great signings to improve our squad. As pocket says - we don't know what efforts were made in that window, what money was available, who decided what.

    We do know that the club is only operating on the back of money from Tony Stewart's company.
    How much is that "little bit more " that would guarantee survival?

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    Can't win with you lads. We have socialists on here questioning every aspect of capitalism but when it comes to TS and RUFC it's all down on your knees, kiss rrse and the boss knows best. Pathetic but if it floats your boats good luck. Twice recently this club has reached the Championship and twice TS's corner shop mentality has screwed it. The only people winning here are the property company that owns NYS.

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    The top and bottom of it is Tony Stewart cannot finance Championship football. He will have got some of his investment back from TV money and be content to keep drawing the rent money from the football club,whatever division we're in. I certainly don't expect him to put much money into an attempt to get us straight back up should we go down. Quite depressing really.

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    A million spent in the Championship is basically ineffective but the same amount in league 1 can make a significant difference.

    Many have been saying we should have splashed the cash in a striker but even if we landed one where would he play in Warne’s 4-5-1 system?

    Even then assuming he netted a credited 1 goal every 3 games, we would still end up losing because we have the usual defensive lapses and concede daft goals.

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    There is a couple of issues I have with TS

    1st is the learning from mistakes 2 seasons ago we dropped because our lack of attacking options. Fast forward to present day we went from January until a few weeks ago with just Yates and smith.
    2nd his so called revolving door this too is a contradiction since a chunk of our players will be out of contract they will have to be players coming in, oh wait this is TS so maybe he will ask his gran kids to play.
    3rd is his and I quote ďwe donít exactly have a set budgetĒ (translation: Iím not spending money) we need a budget a rolling budget maybe, because this value for money approach isnít working. A lot of clubs if they donít spend what they are given one year it will roll over to the next for when they need it.

    We need TS to show ambition again because right now he comes across like heís given up on the club

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brin View Post
    Stovic, leave it pal. I’ve brought this up before and been challenged over it. Your excellent point will fall on deaf ears ����
    Eh! Did someone say something

    Just looked at the table and again not sure if another forward/goalscorer was the panacea we needed. We have scored more goals than all our rivals in the bottom 6 and we've even scored more than Middlesbrough who look likely to be in the playoffs.

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