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    Elliott Ward contract...

    One more game to trigger extension...talks with Ardley.

    https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport...rd-set-2787386

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    It's things like this that make me despair with Notts sometimes. Here we have an experienced centre half who has played at the highest level. He cant play for us despite being on our books because of some stupid clause in his contract. Who negotiates these contracts? Do we have people in a managerial capacity who know what they are doing? Because to wheel him out now with 3 games to go when we could have done with his services earlier instead of the Isthmian League standard incumbent who got sent off on Saturday beggars belief.

    And before anyone starts jumping up and down about the relative merits of various players standard/competent wise I am referring to the Administrative, Managerial, Contract, DOF goings on behind the scenes. It is further evidence if any were needed that we couldn't run a p* up in a brewery.

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    It is beyond farcical..it is Monty Python at its best.

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    We should of just played him and kept him as a backup for next season

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    Quote Originally Posted by jscarr View Post
    We should of just played him and kept him as a backup for next season
    His wages are too high for league two let alone the national league.

    That's why he hasn't played and it was the same when Milsom was left out the side for a while the only reason he has appeared over the last few months is he has took the clause out of his contact.

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    Its ok Legs... the South Africans are loaded and can easily afford another dead beat veteran.

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    It's crazy that at this late stage we are only just sitting down with him to request this clause be removed, I hope that this has been an ongoing discussion over the last few months and the player was unwilling to negotiate (but I doubt it). He's an experienced/solid CB and is head and shoulders above Barclay.

    The way this club is being run from top to bottom is so very amateur, the fans deserve much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mapperleypie View Post
    It's crazy that at this late stage we are only just sitting down with him to request this clause be removed, I hope that this has been an ongoing discussion over the last few months and the player was unwilling to negotiate (but I doubt it). He's an experienced/solid CB and is head and shoulders above Barclay.

    The way this club is being run from top to bottom is so very amateur, the fans deserve much better.
    Yup, it's a joke.

    It's a common clause in football though so I'm not particularly upset at him having it in his deal, Stead has had them in his contract for a few years, Duffy had it either last season or the year before and Aborah and Mahon both had them in their deals under different ownership. It's the fact that it seems like with 4 games to go we decided maybe it was time to look at it which is just ridiculous.

    If it was looked at previously, which you would have thought it had been, then it would seem like Ward refused to remove it despite being frozen out, which I guess is well within his right to do but doesn't paint him in the best light... If it hadn't been discussed then it makes Ardley out to be an idiot so either way it's stupid.

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    I don't see the need to play him at this stage of the season so would quite happily say thank you and show him the door. We need a complete overhaul on and off the field and it's daft that Ardley who will not be here next season to manage him has a say.

    Although having said that I'm sure Ward would prefer to be playing league football next season so would be daft to not to waive the clause and leave at the end of the season.
    Last edited by OP67; 23-04-2019 at 03:47 PM.

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    Essentially itís the only way to sign older players who want surety when you arenít 100% sure of them!

    So itís a double edged sword.

    If I were Ward Iíd tell Notts to stuff it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyt1 View Post
    Essentially itís the only way to sign older players who want surety when you arenít 100% sure of them!

    So itís a double edged sword.

    If I were Ward Iíd tell Notts to stuff it.
    He is within his rights to do that but if his wages go up say 25% if he plays he is unlikely to turn money down to play two games.

    I think he will agree to it we probably need him to otherwise we only have two fit centre backs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legs77 View Post
    He is within his rights to do that but if his wages go up say 25% if he plays he is unlikely to turn money down to play two games.

    I think he will agree to it we probably need him to otherwise we only have two fit centre backs.
    I can play if needed. I am free. I will even pay £5 subs and have a go on the football card.

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    We don't learn from history. Remember when couldn't play high-earning Tony Hackworth for a good portion of his time at Notts because of the further instalments we would have to play Leeds? To be fair, he probably didn't warrant selection anyway, but if he had played regularly who knows, his development as a young player might have been different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2 View Post
    We don't learn from history. Remember when couldn't play high-earning Tony Hackworth for a good portion of his time at Notts.
    Aaah, happy memories. Not being able to play Hackworth was a brilliant contract clause!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    Aaah, happy memories. Not being able to play Hackworth was a brilliant contract clause!
    Ward was brought in by Kewell mid way through the season when we were conceding goals for fun as was Milsom.

    So it is stating the obvious to say that both were going to get a fair bit of game time as Duffy couldn't defend for toffee for example and there was a clear reluctance to blood Bird who has since been blooded and did ok.

    Can someone please explain to me the logic in bringing in a player mid season to sure up a back 4 (5) and then giving him an appearance restriction that basically motivates his employer not to play him. Unbelievable.

    If they are brought in as back up I can understand it but clearly that was not the case. I don't know who negotiated that but they should hang their heads in shame. Absolutely outstandingly bad work. Just give him a contract to the end of the season and go from there, Ward was a free agent for gods sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legs77 View Post
    His wages are too high for league two let alone the national league.

    That's why he hasn't played and it was the same when Milsom was left out the side for a while the only reason he has appeared over the last few months is he has took the clause out of his contact.
    That's stupid, we've payed him thousands of pounds when we won't even play him. His wages won't be ridiculously high and we need a centre back. Play him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jscarr View Post
    That's stupid, we've payed him thousands of pounds when we won't even play him. His wages won't be ridiculously high and we need a centre back. Play him.
    It's not Ward's fault is it. Hardy and Turner must have negotiated the contract with player and agent and everyone agreed to it, it now looks like the pressure is on Ward to drop the clause, which seems unfair to me. You need experience in the National League.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCullochisGod View Post
    It's not Ward's fault is it. Hardy and Turner must have negotiated the contract with player and agent and everyone agreed to it, it now looks like the pressure is on Ward to drop the clause, which seems unfair to me. You need experience in the National League.
    I know, but we clearly need a centre back right now, any money lost would be made up if we stay up. And, Ward won't be on that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jscarr View Post
    I know, but we clearly need a centre back right now, any money lost would be made up if we stay up. And, Ward won't be on that much.
    I think that's the problem - he is on quite a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jscarr View Post
    I know, but we clearly need a centre back right now, any money lost would be made up if we stay up. And, Ward won't be on that much.
    He won't be on that much. What do you call not that much?

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